I don't know, but these people piss me off so much. First of all the counseling session is once a week and it is all women. Now i don't mind this, if the class could actually be productive in any way. But it's not, it's just an hour and a half of women bitching about this and that, or who knows what else. Grief is traumatic, and can leave behind some interesting issues to deal with, but jesus, these people have apparently done the class multiple times, and to me, it just seems weird. Grief counseling is not a social club in my life, its about learning techniques and NOT being co dependent on others. Except, this entire point is completely missed. Instead it's a circular circle jerk of anger towards non widowers, and a complete break down in communication. Like yes, if people ask you how you are, and you internalize rage and anger over them not knowing, dont expect them to know what to do for next time. This behavior can be annoying, but i quickly learned myself that my problems, especially this personal are NOT a problem to others. The second issue is most of my life experiences are not translatable to this class. Yes i tried the suppression route and failed, but i also learned that some form of suppression, as a guy at least is required and even beneficial. I would become useless and ridiculed if i broke down every other day over my wife dying. It sucks, but that is the way it is. I dont want to beat myself up over it, and there isn't much i can do about it at this point, except accept what happened, and not let my emotions get the best of me. I learned this by myself though.