I used to 'believe' in a creator too. However, belief in creator is not much better than belief in the freemasonic space fantasy that your friend the shill YoureJewish believes. Indeed, it does seem to be the most logical thing - we see all the clear signs of intelligent design. Yet if we believe in an 'external creator' or 'another thing that magically explains everything' our underlying attitude remains the same. Analyze your claim of the most logical thing... is it really a creator? Or is the creator us - we the creator, within the created - because we are creation itself? Our body is an ecosystem consistning of many moving parts, no ? The Earth is an ecosystem much the same. Why then would Earth need an outside creator when no where else in nature do we find such magic intervention? Humans are not created by a machine or the hand of god - we are produced from ourselves, creation is within us and in fact it is our primary function... everything seems designed this way. Built to sustain and grow (via bloodlines in mamals, roots in plants, mycelium in fungi, and so forth). We are a moving part that supports existence of 'Earth' which is a larger ecosystem sustaining itself via our continued participation. No God necessary.