Thanks once again. I came back to re-read your reply here and still don't have much of a response to share (not that it is necessary) because your reasoning is sound as usual. For me it exposes the lazy nature of self to cling on to past 'ways' and the comforts of habbit which are as you might say the *pulling temptation of death.* Cause everytime I think about how to rationalize use of money or reliance on 'stores' or the 'system' which keeps people in this cycle of 'business' ie- 9 to 5 workday which we (er, the many) both slave and feed on... the end result seems obvious: the same results, no difference, the same repeating problems and ultimately death not to mention probably extinction of my bloodline at this rate. Yet it is the laziness & habbits (and comforts) that are paralyzing... if one wants the things the system gives then it becomes difficult to innovate on solutions outside of the system. yet I am slowly comprehending an interesting phenomena... that one's creative output / thinking capacity / rate of solution manifestation does not seem to change much regardless of if the intent is on working within the system or outside of it. In other words, if one simply decides to reject money then one will come up with solutions that ensure one can live without money. If however, one expects to live without money - by using money - it is a corrupted exercise and will simply result in the same selfish patterns (of self destruction) obviously culminating in more use of money and thus endless slavery. Self imposed no less. Indeed, as you often point out - we have the free will of choice all along. And I suspect if one can get past the red pill/black pill/coping stage (I am here more often; hence trolling on Voat/Poal haha) and into a state of mind that allows for clear action oriented thinking on solutions to fullfill one's needs that do not involve money... I assume one could acheive the same level of fulfillment - and probably much more - than if we exerted that same energy trying to become a 'success' by making more money. Rejection of idolatry in all forms, a hard-shift to needs-first intent, uncompromising outside-the-system thinking and a redefinition (re-programming?) of value to value that of the things that sustain you and your blood; the natural and obvious things that nature makes available if only we decide to work for her (and not the man). Just takes courage to embrace I guess.