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I'm an industrial engineer. Tell me I can't remove it. People forget that even if this technology is put in people have worked to crack and hack and remove anything in your systems. Give it a few months and there will be ways of getting it out of there. We aren't out of the game.

The only way to lose at this point it to become complacent and accept losing. If we aren't fighting our government with arms yet, we had better be coming up with ways like this to fight them.

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It will be the same as anything else. Smart people remove it and move on while everybody else fights on facebook until the government is forced to fix what the government did ie raise taxes

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Are you aware of any mechanical longevity studies associated with auto start stop? Since oil pressure falls off it means increased bearing contact. And historically starts represent 70%-80% of engine wear.

Also, anything on starter life? To maintain existing starter longevity requires a starter to function an order of magnitude or more than without auto start stop. Where did this longevity originate or are we all buying starters 10x+ more frequently? Did the price of these next gen starters explode?

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I'm not aware of any, but I do know that start stop does put excessive wear on starters just from the concept. Unless they are putting in some advanced starters (they aren't) it will be a part you will end up replacing more often.

The start stop technology from where you do a real start versus a idle start is different from what I've read. The idle start isn't as rough on the starter. Maybe that is why you aren't seeing so many starters replaced. In the longevity of it you will notice a difference though versus a normal vehicle without the technology.

There may be studies that compile the data in a more fashionable and complete data out there. Interesting concept to bring up. I'm sure it isn't the only part that is being stressed on a system though.

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The idle start isn't as rough on the starter.

This is correct as the engine is stopped at TDC, ready to immediately begin the combusion cycle. It is a short cycle on the starter compared to a cold start. However, presumably the cylinoid still activates, which also has a limited life cycle. Maybe the cylinoid is the intended consumable?

If you happen to come across something to share, it would make for a nice post. Would certainly be appreciated.

Thank you.

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It will not stop rural folk and will not be easily rolled out to remote areas. We have decades to worry about it plus as said, where there is a will there's a way.

If the jews get their way, if you say a word they dont like while in your car the filter will catch it and drive you to the nearest police station.