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One of the things that I get when I'm putting away preps is barter goods. It's stuff that I'm going to want to have around anyway, but I get it in small units that would also be easy to trade (or bribe) with. This is the sort of things that I've thought about (I don't talk about what I actually have on the net)

  • Mini lighters
  • Tea candles
  • Toilet Paper
  • Cheap makeup
  • Salt and pepper packets.
  • Airline bottles of booze.
  • Toenail clippers
  • Travel bottles of shampoo
  • Small rolls of duct tape.
  • Those tiny sewing kits (or maybe the $4-5 Family Dollar ones)
  • USB battery banks (I try to grab the ones that are less than $10 -- intend to do a sort of deposit/exchange program on those, because I'll have the solar.)
  • Those $10 jogging FM/AM radios
  • Cheap folding knives

Any other ideas? I can't be the only one who comes up with shit that no one else thinks about. (Ammo and silver coins we already know about, that's not barter goods, that's currency.)

One of the things that I get when I'm putting away preps is barter goods. It's stuff that I'm going to want to have around anyway, but I get it in small units that would also be easy to trade (or bribe) with. This is the sort of things that I've thought about (I don't talk about what I actually have on the net) * Mini lighters * Tea candles * Toilet Paper * Cheap makeup * Salt and pepper packets. * Airline bottles of booze. * Toenail clippers * Travel bottles of shampoo * Small rolls of duct tape. * Those tiny sewing kits (or maybe the $4-5 Family Dollar ones) * USB battery banks (I try to grab the ones that are less than $10 -- intend to do a sort of deposit/exchange program on those, because I'll have the solar.) * Those $10 jogging FM/AM radios * Cheap folding knives Any other ideas? I can't be the only one who comes up with shit that no one else thinks about. (Ammo and silver coins we already know about, that's not barter goods, that's currency.)

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Vitamins are short term items. They dont last long term.

not necessarily,

talked about here: https://theprovidentprepper.org/shelf-life-of-vitamin-supplements-in-a-survival-food-supply/

some tests: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6451478/

some have important uses, like folic acid

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Your links support me, the second one is pretty irrelevant. Of course under ideal conditions they last longer. They are by no definition long term items.

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You only said "short term", so you didn't make a point to support or not...

First link: "the vitamins would gradually lose potency but I believe you could depend on reasonable potency at least 10 to 15 years in cool, dry, and dark storage conditions."

Second link: look at the graphs, serval years dependant on type.

You are missing the point, pharmacies will be looted, barter will be the only way to obtain this item

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Unless, like my original point, buy them now instead of barter items. As an aside, not sure if you or someone else said c and a were hard to get, Dandelion greens can be eaten cooked or raw and serve as an excellent source of vitamins A, C and K