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I've never once looked into this stuff myself, but i know what's in popular culture and what we see in all sorts of media. portrayals of complex rituals with drawing symbols on the floor, dotting it with candles, sacrificing a small bovine, chanting, etc.

or "eye of newt, tongue of frog" or whatever. what up with those, those things are nasty.

  • why are LED candles not good enough to dot the sigil on the floor with?
  • can you chant in any language or does it need to be english?
  • why eye of newt, surely purer and better chemicals could be used for... whatever's brewing.
  • why do you need a cauldron instead of a big regular pot?

and so on. got any thoughts, add them.

I've never once looked into this stuff myself, but i know what's in popular culture and what we see in all sorts of media. portrayals of complex rituals with drawing symbols on the floor, dotting it with candles, sacrificing a small bovine, chanting, etc. or "eye of newt, tongue of frog" or whatever. what up with those, those things are nasty. - why are LED candles not good enough to dot the sigil on the floor with? - can you chant in any language or does it need to be english? - why eye of newt, surely purer and better chemicals could be used for... whatever's brewing. - why do you need a cauldron instead of a big regular pot? and so on. got any thoughts, add them.

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There's the possibility, you know, that this is just how things are portrayed in the media to make these people look super loony. Same way they portray southerners or white males. I've met some people who do random "magic" work and take it very seriously; and by "take it seriously" I mean objectively experiment and produce repeatable results. To observe your mind's eye is to peek behind the curtain; there's lots of information to be gained there, if only you'd be willing to listen. But I'll drop a hint: a major component of ritual is tangible reinforcement.

The real work is being done in your mind— the physical acts are mostly just a representation of what you're doing, to assist in making sure you follow all the right steps. You're working with energy, not physical objects. Some people need to do these things because their human incredulity and doubt block them from being able to do it any other way. You could simply cross your legs, in a meditative pose, "astral project" out of your body and do the ritual there— and if anything, doing it said way would have greater efficacy due to being performed in a space which is "closer to the source."

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interesting, thanks for contributing. could be representational, could be misdirection, who knows.

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Check out "The Art and Practice of Astral Projection" by Ophiel or "Magic: An Occult Primer" by David Conway. The latter covers (and corrects) a lot of the misconceptions surrounding "magic." It's almost impossible to read it and not leave with a refreshed pragmatic view towards the subject as a whole. Ophiel's books are strictly practical, and give a strong insight in to the whole "mental" thing I'm talking about. Ophiel was a one-of-a-kind guy who bruteforced most of his knowledge— refusing to join any occult societies to gain his insights, so that he wouldn't be oath-bound to secrecy. He was sabotaged at every turn, because of this. I have both books (and more) in epub format, if you want 'em.

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sounds interesting, can you post the links here?