Okay, I mean I think about this problem EVERY FUCKING DAY. How do they work? If you can crack that nut you can have your country back goys.
E Michael Jones is wrong because he is a christian, so he believes in free will and all that shit. Satan etc. So his mistake is understandable. And apologies for sounding patronizing to christians. I’m really not trying to put you down.
Evolution gives me the clearest picture of what is going on here. And I have said this elsewhere numerous times, so forgive my repetitiveness, but this is a case of social parasitism. I dont know if they completely qualify as a separate species but we can treat them as one for the purpose of this discussion.
They are social geniuses. Geniuses at how culture works. They’ve been living in the cities and empires of the fertile crescent a few thousand years longer than we have been and they have definitely been reading and writing for longer than our people for a long while. They have been selecting for the ability to read and write for 2 or 3 times as long as us. Longer maybe. That is pertinent.
At some point they decided to stop living off of sheep herding and live off of goyim herding. Initially probably off their fellow canaanites/semites.
Then the egyptians. (See hyksos) at that point they were already spreading misinformation/hoaxes. Christians arent going to like this part. So don’t read it if you are sensitive. Exodus is the opposite of what happened. They invaded and took over half of egypt and controlled it for generations.
Just like they lie about eastern europeans pogroming them, when it is they who parasitized eastern europeans. Just like they bitch about the inquisition, when they led the moorish invasion and subjugation of iberia. Just like Nazi germany and the holocaust. Just like lying about racist white americans and their antisemitism.
They fabricate apocryphal narratives about their own victimhood when they are the aggressor. And they hypnotize themselves and others of the narrative. And they 100% believe it. And it is 100% false. It’s what they do, it’s their evolutionary focus.
I keep thinking of the cuckoo, another social parasite, who attacks the nest of host birds that reject its egg. It is a useful adaptation to ruthlessly attack the guy who calls out your bullshit if you are a parasite that uses deception to exploit your host. But what does the cuckoo think in that moment? Probably, why is that bird being mean to my egg, its supposed to feed my baby! It is not necessary for the parasite to be aware that it is a bad actor.
Jews drink their own bathwater. They are genetically predisposed to view themselves as the ultimate victim no matter what. And then to produce endless lore about their victimhood. The bible. Hollywood. It is the essence of their religion. And the essence of their survival strategy. They are good at it like we are good at growing food or building machines or houses. We are great at that stuff. They suck at it. They dont need to be good at building infrastructure. Someone else does it for them. They build religions to manipulate the goyim. Judaism, the other one, communism, psychotherapy, racism.
To call them revolutionary is not quite right. They automatically seek to undermine the dominant culture of the host because culture is the immune system of the host society. They rationalize this somehow as racism or whatever. It doesnt matter what is happening in their cuckoo heads. The point is, they invade and attack normal healthy societies that are doing nothing more than self regulating. A direct comparison can be made between the mentality of biblical jews and their culture of persecution, and today’s communist/ social justice warrior anti racism ideology. Its all just an externalization of the jewish mind. They train up a few goyim to mimic their thinking and help carry out their agenda. So it looks like a collaborative effort of many groups, like homos and hispanics and bantus and women, but it’s them running the show. I absolutely believe they ran moorish spain. Everyone else is just monkeying them.
I know this has some serious implications for christianity that christians will just not accept, but it is just what logically fits for me.
I believe that following their religion and exploitive strategy over time has resulted in a set of genes (that we can identify! ) that make them very good at manipulating people socially, undermining other cultures’ institutions, and believing in their own chronic victimhood absolutely. It may only be five or ten genes that are heavily resposible for their parasitic tendencies. Some may have less than others.
We see some comparable behaviors in irish travelers and gypsies. They are genetic traits that are positive adaptations for people that live itenerant lifestyles. Deception.
There may even be some physical mimicry involved.
So how do they coordinate? It is usually not a conscious conspiracy although I think it sometimes may be. How do bees coordinate behavior? How does a murmuration of starling coordinate? You are on the right path when you talk about large crowds at nazi rallies coordinating through subtle cues. I think it is something like that. They are so predicatably commie and progressive. You have that “every single time” sensation when you observe them in vastly different settings. I mull over the Russian revolution and the parallels to our country today . It’s the same damn crowd, the same damn target_native_population.exe that seems to be called to execute when their power reaches some critical mass in a host society.
Perhaps we can think of them a bit as a colony creature? Executing a genetic program by transmitting information between individuals the way neurons relay signals to each other. Each neuron may not be aware of what the overall program is doing.
Am I getting too out there?
It's because they form a cohesive social group with no outside loyalties of higher priority, and antisemitism by the out-group is a normal social reaction. Yes, a normal social reaction. And to any future internet historian that might be reading this, before you jump my case and scream 'anti-semite'. I can guarantee you'll never guess who I stole this notion from:
The formation of groups has an invigorating effect in all spheres of human striving, perhaps mostly due to the struggle between the convictions and aims represented by the different groups. The Jews too form such a group with a definite character of its own, and anti-Semitism is nothing but the antagonistic attitude produced in the non-Jews by the Jewish group. This is a normal social reaction.
-Albert Einstein
source (unz.com)
Unfortunately the article doesn't have rest of it, and some of it is bullshit, but it admits to some of the things they do.
The simple answer is they talk to each other, favor each other, and nothing or no one else as much. Outside of earshot of the goyim (their word for the out-group) they'll collude, coordinate, and give each other preferential treatment, I'm sure. Every group does this with it's in group members. It's nothing different than 'locker room talk' among the guys. But the preferential behavior outside the locker room has significant real world consequences. But at it's heart, it's basically just nepotism combined with usury giving them power to economically dominate - and money is the most protean form of power - combined with thousands of years of doing it such that they never have to struggle, strive, or start from scratch because the behavior is older than the oldest living jew and they help each other out. Complete with loans to each other without charging interest. There's a reason both Christianity and Islam used to prohibit usury, and it's because it's fucking evil. It punishes hardship instead of becoming more lenient. Same reason jews don't do it to each other. They do evil to the outgroup, not to each other.
If you took a 10,000 people of the full spectrum of us living on earth, including a representative sample of each took them naked to another planet, or all with just the same resources as each other, and denied them usury and other such financial shenanigans like money changing, I bet they wouldn't rise to power again, or if so it would be random. And if you conducted the same experiment 100 times, they would only a number of times commensurate with their population ratio. So in short, they're a very cohesive group with prodigiously already amassed wealth, and no loyalty higher than that of to each other, including superseding telling the truth or ethical behavior. Without that advantage and that behavior, they'd lose.
I bet if you took any other group, gave them the same cohesiveness, same financial tricks, that group would end up in the traditional jewish role instead. That is to say, there's nothing innately special about them that makes them superior. And without the resources already amassed they would not be capable of the level of social domination that they currently hold. Mother nature requires balance right down to physics, and balance that pays for that power is the suffering of the working class to barely scrape by while a small fraction of the population thrives in orders of magnitude more power and comfort.
The simple answer is they talk to each other, favor each other, and nothing or no one else as much. Outside of earshot of the goyim (their word for the out-group) they'll collude, coordinate, and give each other preferential treatment, I'm sure
But we all do that. And we all evolve to favor our own genes and culture. So what is different about them?
and denied them usury and other such financial shenanigans like money changing, I bet they wouldn't rise to power again,
Right because usury is a bureacracy they exploit to avoid having to create real wealth.
Real useful wealth like houses and cars and computers and boats and rockets and roads and FOOD and scientific theories, they do not create. Einstein simply repackaged others’ theories.
They live off the bureacracies and other institutions created by prosperous societies. In a sense its all a con. They will argue that it is a symbiotic relationship but people keep throwing them out.
They manipulate currencies. They manipulate news reporting. They expand bureacracy to bloated corrupt inefficiencies. They are bloated and corrupt to our purposes. But to a jew, a bloated corrupt bureacracy is a fertile field to be harvested!They invent religions and ideologies and then invade educational institutions and inculcate the youth in them. Communism is a false religion at odds with evolutionary reality. But when it is attempted, it provides a rich environment for bureacratic jews.
They love to destroy / distort information and replace it with their own false narrative. Holocaust, SJW silliness, civil rights and BLM antiracism.
Theyve distorted the dollar by taking it off the gold standard. They set the price of a dollar. They borrow and spend. We pay for it. The nation is a ponzi scheme now and they are bernie madoff. They have no skin in the game because we arent their real country.
If you took away their ability to parasitize like barring them from banking, lawyering, teaching, politics, entertainment, information.... they would have to find a nonparasitic strategy and they would begin to be selected for nonparasitic traits, slowly over time.
I bet if you took any other group, gave them the same cohesiveness, same financial tricks, that group would end up in the traditional jewish role instead.
These are genetic traits that were selected for in the context of endogamous membership of their cult. Jews who did not have the critical genes fell away and assimilated with host populations.
there's nothing innately special about them that makes them superior.
Wrong, they are innately superior genetically for exploiting their evolutionary niche which is social parasite. Manipulator of other cultures. This is a niche that was pursued with laser like focus by members of this cult and they got good at it over three thousand years.
They do not have to expend resources on growing food or building houses or making anything. Therefore they dont have the genes for it. Goys can fix cars. Can jews fix cars? No.
They only have to be good at herding sheep. We are the sheep. They are very good at it genetically.
Their amassed wealth would be worthless if everyone else decided to stop doing business with them. Because they cant do anything for themselves.
Read about brood parasitism or social parasitism. Closely related species often parasitize another. I think its called Emery’s rule. That is what is going on.
And I have said this elsewhere numerous times, so forgive my repetitiveness, but this is a case of social parasitism.
I've had a similar realization of the parasitic quality of their behavior. Jewish history sets the stage for that comparison clearly enough.
I don't know if they completely qualify as a separate species but we can treat them as one for the purpose of this discussion.
Sure. The distinction is definitely psychological and behavioral, perhaps a strained use of the word species to distinguish between strategies (or, modes of being in the world) that are perhaps different natural kinds - simply, a difference between the way Jews and non-Jews understand themselves in the world, and in their relationship to its natural laws and order. Broadly, there is the tendency to be authentically creative, or a tendency to parasitize.
I doubt much of a case, if any, could be made phylogenetically. The Jews have been so thoroughly interbred between their various captivities and the diaspora that we are forced to go beyond mere genetics here - although, we might speculate that there is some very dominant genetic variant they share. I have no idea, really, what that might be. For what it's worth I'm picturing some polymorphism that's been duplicated such and such a number of times, and this variant could be passed on, probably maternally.
I'm thinking of the situation of male pattern baldness - some theorize it is a specific SNP on the X-chromo that becomes triggered in puberty from the Y-derived effects of hormonal changes. Could whatever promotes this behavior in Jews be a genetic tendency that acts like a matrilineal 'bomb' that's just triggered by something far less specific than such and such a ratio of androgens? It would have to be one hell of a dominant allele (or set of alleles).
But it's interesting to consider that possibility in the context of Jewish ethnocentrism and the way it (in combination with their being maligned by the nations of Europe historically) could have really exploded through various bottlenecks. There was a time when I knew a lot more about genetics, but as they say, use it or lose it.
They have been selecting for the ability to read and write for 2 or 3 times as long as us. Longer maybe. That is pertinent.
I think these are important points. I'd widen the view beyond even reading/writing, but include number, and more importantly: the ability to abstract. If my foray into Jewish mysticism, which has been more or less ongoing for years, tells me anything, it's that Jews truly do not live in the same world that we take ourselves to. I had to almost crack up when Eric Weinstein started to gain some popularity, and he appeared on Rogan to discuss 'portals'. Anybody versed whatsoever in Kabbalah and Jewish exegesis recognized that mystical/abstract thread of Jewish thinking on clear display here.
There is a reason that so much work in theoretical mathematics and physics has been done by Jews in the last century or two. These people literally believe that the cosmos is made by number and letter - that their Hebraic alphabet is literally the Word of God that was used to structure the universe. This flies in the face of the common sense of most people of Western descent. The Jews, in many ways, don't 'live in this world'. Their minds are always a level of abstraction above where we are living, which is why they are always behind abstract systems like our current finance system, with its explosion of instruments that are sometimes 3 and 4 levels of abstraction separated from the objects that are supposed to have the real value.
They invaded and took over half of Egypt and controlled it for generations.
I don't know enough about that particular part of history to agree or disagree with characterizing it as an 'invasion'. What I do know is that the Exodus is probably not historical, at least in the sense of being a universal narrative for 'The Jews'. It's possible that a subset of Jews, led by the figure Moses, migrated out of lower Egypt back to Israel. What's unlikely is that they were 'enslaved' by Egypt.
Many, many Jews chose to remain in Egypt. They liked it there. Additionally, I also believe that the tradition we so often have attributed to the Israelites, monotheism, was actually something they picked up from the Egyptians.
The Jewish religion (except for perhaps two attributes) is a Canaanite scaffold upon which was strung Babylonian/Persian and Egyptian theology. From the Babylonian obsession with the power of numbers/letters to the emanationist monotheism of Egypt, the only thing that Jews added quite characteristically to it all was (a) being obsessed with an immanent apocalypse, (b) the emphasis on messianism as a political ascendancy and earthly kingdom, and (c) covenantal language and obsession with law (which was largely to blame on Babylon anyway).
Probably, why is that bird being mean to my egg, its supposed to feed my baby! It is not necessary for the parasite to be aware that it is a bad actor.
That's interesting. The one caveat I'd add is I believe Jews are quite aware of their sins. Theirs is a political-theological system based on their spiritual transgression, and they have the tendency of explaining their entire history as flowing from one punishment by God to another. Here's the catch that will synthesize your claim with mine (and this relates to what I said before about abstraction): the reprisals against Jews, whatever kind of persecution forms they take, are always viewed by the Jews as punishment by God.
A lot of people don't quite grasp what is implied when Jews say they are the chosen people. A big part of it has to do with God setting them apart as the moral compass of the world. The Jew doesn't even see non-Israeli civilizations as existing on the same level of humanity as they do. They refer collectively to all of them as The Nations. Whenever you see that Biblical phrase, it just means gentile nations. They believe God brings the nations against them for their sins. Ask any Jewish sage, and they'd tell you that the Jew is the compass that will allow you to 'read' the moral health of a nation. When the Jew begins to be persecuted, a nation is at the start of trouble.
What I see happening throughout history with the Jews is this fundamental inability to explain their own outcomes in any terms other than their insular world-explanation of 'God gives or God takes'. They are always in a direct sort of antagonism with what they take to be the hand of God as the abstraction of Nations. So they are always 'pushing' in some sense, making all of their behaviors toward gentile nations inchoate in the legal sense. As long as they are pushing and not experiencing some sweeping reprisal, then they are in God's favor. Once they tip the scales and a nation expels them or genocides them, now God used their enemy to punish them.
Once the Nations became liberal and humanized, and ideas like the value of individual lives and human rights entered the fore, the Jews started to use the examples of their historical punishments as claims of unjustified persecution. Moreover, whenever they are parasitically operating inside of a nation and anyone does point it out, they have recourse to claiming anti-semitism because, of course, God is still on their side as long as they are not being systematically killed. Because their religious history has basically embedded in their race memory the fact that they are the moral barometer of God. They are ordained to be supreme relative to everyone else, until God decides to punish them.
Hence, chutzpah. They'll push until 'God' pushes back. They literally prod the nations to persecute them, and then on the basis of that reprisal, they sympathetically manipulate the next nation or generation to see them as victims. So the cycle goes.
Judaism, the other one, communism, psychotherapy, racism.
I think Christianity is an exception here. Note what I said before about Judaism being a hodgepodge of other traditions. The Jews have used media and academia to pull the wool over people's eyes, claiming a historical tradition of monotheism that predates others and forms the groundwork for all of the modern 'acceptable' traditions that underlie humanism - i.e. the myth of Judeo-Christianity.
The reality is they've picked and chosen religious modules from their surrounding civilizations and built a Frankenstein.
Importantly, note that the other things you've mentioned, i.e. psychotherapy, are always religious in form. Now connect it with what I've said about abstractions. You can see that what they've done is to co-opt the Forms of religions. They utilize false religions.
But there is a reason they hate Christianity. Christ was a spiritual liberator and redeemer, who broke down the walls the Jews had been building up in their elitist program. Christ harkened back to a purer kind of spirituality, which I attach to Egypt. Of course, no human religion is invulnerable to corruption, and so with the centuries, even Christianity has largely been corrupted because most non-Jews don't truly understand their religions (in terms of sophisticated exegesis, nor do they understand the ecumenical, liturgical and ritual parts of their traditions). So, we the gentiles get lazy, lose sight of the truth, and it simply stands as a fact that the Jew has the capability to attack a society on multiple fronts simultaneously, in subtle and patient ways.
It may only be five or ten genes that are heavily responsible for their parasitic tendencies.
Are you referring to genes as molecules of DNA...or are you using it as gene qua gene (more like a 'meme'), or sets of behaviors that can be transmitted like they were genetically heritable?
Perhaps we can think of them a bit as a colony creature? Executing a genetic program by transmitting information between individuals the way neurons relay signals to each other.
That's a very interesting way of putting it. I don't think you're 'too out there' at all. You don't need to address the following claim, but I still sense you are so close to seeing this through a spiritual lens!
The notion that they are each neurons imprinted with a particular program for perceiving and transmitting information (as behavior) might be how we explain this behavior on Twitter that initially made me wonder. It could just be that the Jews (having the kind of social acumen you mentioned) innately KNOW what the primary routes of information (hence, influence) in a society are. It would be like a virus that 'knows' the tissue it is best suited to attack, and how to do that. In other words, you could take a Jew from this planet to a different planet still having human life on it, drop them there, and probably within hours the Jew would know the primary routes of cultural transmission in whatever society you dropped them in.
They recognize innately, without having to consciously articulate it, that in the current state of affairs, social media is something like the 'main vein' of culture. So they are scanning it, always, looking at what their kind are doing there, and where it has been effective. They see a particular Jew mimicking white people and they observe that it is generating the desired effect. So they begin to mimic that behavior. So what's actually accounting for this problem I was describing in my previous comment is that the Jewish population is smaller, more agile, and they can simply transmit species-specific behaviors and cues across their population far faster than we can.
It's one advantage of their smaller numbers. Americans are diverse, even where we are racially very similar. We disagree on enough things that a similar level of coordination is impossible. In part, it's because we are good at building civilizations. We are safe enough and have large enough numbers that we can afford to differentiate the way that we do internally. The Jewish strategy makes that impossible. Their mimicry behavior is just the outward evidence that their intra-species communications and consensus-forming apparatuses work to establish quorum at a velocity that non-Jews just cannot understand - because, again, we are a species that negotiates and deliberates and values the radical independence we have afforded ourselves by building something quasi-permanent. Jews couldn't exist if, as a species, they were as radically individual and deliberative.
They promote democracy so often because they know that is precisely the construct that allows them to do what they do inside of a host. The kind of psychic division promoted under democracy is just what prevents a similar blanket of psychic connection from forming in their host, which they in turn rely on among themselves. The Jew, as infection, attacks the NERVOUS SYSTEM. It gets into the tissues connecting the organs together and disrupts their communications, making what was once a unified body begin to behave like a democracy, where the organ-communications only work internally and not externally to unify the body any longer.
This lack of coordination in our analogy means that the body can no longer change its blood flow efficiently, because the body has been divided, so the body no longer sees itself as a body. Now the organs all fight for the inefficient blood flow, regardless of who needs it most. Meanwhile, the Jew in the neurons also has filaments extended into the blood vessels. It wants the blood, but it gets it indirectly by first targeting the nervous system.
Part 2 lol
The reality is they've picked and chosen religious modules from their surrounding civilizations and built a Frankenstein.
This is a really interesting idea I hadnt really considered. Maybe we are an egypto-christian nation. Maybe we really worship Aten and not yahweh.
christianity is an exception
That would be one way to look at it. He was certainly a break from old stodgy judaism of the Pharisees. He was hellenized for one. So perhaps this is more of the jewish abiltiy to synthesize a number of different cultural beliefs in to one? It certainly is a departure from traditional judaism.
But what is notable to me is a pattern in the spread of early christianity that resembles how jews have been spreading marxist ideology for more than a century. A core ideology that is initially maintained by jews. Setting up ideological cells in many countries—in this case early churches—and then gathering many goy followers who are eager for instruction—
“Dear Galatians, be like this, think like this, Love Saul Paul (Im one of you goy)”. Rome which is generally accepting of other religions makes a policy change and starts throwing christians to lions. Maybe there was a reason for it. Like an existential threat. Eventually christianity takes over the roman state from within and forces christianity on all of europe, literally demonizing all other religions. Native europeans did not want to adopt christianity. They had it forced on them by the state and a group of enthusiastic goy fanatics led by a core jewish leadership. The jewish christians eventually just assimilated into the european society. And eventually the religion became more gentile in character.
I cant help thinking about this current alliance of white and black and hispanic and gay and muslim SJWs who all advocate progressive values and communism who are all ultimately led by the nose by the same group involved in early christianity.
Are you referring to genes as molecules of DNA...or are you using it as gene qua gene (more like a 'meme'), or sets of behaviors that can be transmitted like they were genetically heritable?
So I am talking about physical sequences of nucleotides that can be linked to certain behaviors. They may mesh well with certain cultural memes that exist in a religio-ethnic group. This things evolve together. “Oh we’re so persecuted”— do I believe there’s a gene that predisposes one to that belief? You bet I do. But even when you delete the religion, the behavior is still there. Secular jews still promote the idea that they are the worlds biggest victims when in fact they have more political power and money per capita than everyone else.
It could just be that the Jews (having the kind of social acumen you mentioned) innately KNOW what the primary routes of information (hence, influence) in a society are. It would be like a virus that 'knows' the tissue it is best suited to attack, and how to do that
Yes they are highly specialized. There is rarely an actual conspiracy as we think of it. They seem to be coordinating but they are not doing it consciously. I mean sometimes they are, rather alot compared to others. But not as much as it would seem.
Its like, why do blacks always walk real slow in front of your car. Did they have a meeting? You know they couldn’t have, but sometimes it seems like they did. Its in the DNA.
Their mimicry behavior is just the outward evidence that their intra-species communications and consensus-forming apparatuses work to establish quorum at a velocity that non-Jews just cannot understand - because, again, we are a species that negotiates and deliberates and values the radical independence we have afforded ourselves by building something quasi-permanent. Jews couldn't exist if, as a species, they were as radically individual and deliberative.
Yes but also because they have a radically different objective. The objective of the heterogeneous nations are to build better nations. They have no skin in that game. They live off bureaucracies, they live off loopholes. They exploit our reliance on government. Unlike blacks, whites really have a deep need to rely on government to act. We really dont like to break laws. So they hijack our entire legal system. Its really a fuckin disaster!
who are all ultimately led by the nose by the same group involved in early Christianity.
I plan on doing a longer post to address this intuition you've called attention to, as well as to another claim you made in Pt. 1, but I don't have the time tonight. I will do it tomorrow - probably.
But I was aroused enough by this that I had to take a second to clap back with one thought: it cannot be overstated how dialectically opposed Christianity is to Judaism, in a way that many moderns do not appreciate, largely on account of the fact that they just don't really see the theological points of difference. My shallower side, somewhere down in my belly, wants to say: thanks, Protestantism. It's not that simple, but it's also got a lot of truth behind it.
One thing to note is that Greece was massively influenced by Egypt. I will try to get into why this Egypt-Grecian duo figures so heavily in the conflict with Judaism, but suffice it to say that what the philosophy of the Hellenes is, is Egyptian in origin. In the esoteric literature of the Greeks, they make this eminently clear. They even personify the Egyptian vector of their thought as a figure called Hermes Trismigestus, who they antedated to the time of Moses - and if I can just spitball for a moment, I don't think the fact they made Hermes a contemporary of Moses was any accident at all. These 'be fightin' words'.
There are also some Rabbinic commentaries from much later that really help to enlighten the way the Jews saw the Greeks.
But, to finish for the night, I want to stress that, given what I've just said above:
He was Hellenized for one.
This is cosmically important.
I'm even going to go as far as saying that for Christianity, what Christ introduced which was conciliable with the Greek, was far more important to Christian thought than the Judaized parts. The entire difference between the way Christianity and Judaism understands the Logos depends upon it.
Rome which is generally accepting of other religions makes a policy change and starts throwing Christians to lions. Maybe there was a reason for it.
Certainly there is a reason. Rome tolerated other religions only insofar as they also honored the Roman gods, and in particular the divine status of the Roman high pontiff, or the Caesar. Christianity didn't, and they were small enough in number, while also being without a 'homeland', that their presence in Rome was a problem which could be handled differently than that of the Jews. The Jews had far greater numbers, and they occupied lands that required administration under a prefecture. The Romans were not throwing the Jews to lions, and the reason for this is not one having to do with Christian proselytizing only, but stems from politics and the fact that Christianity had incorporated the wisdom of the Greeks - a synthesis that made it quite attractive for Westerners who'd been versed in that thinking for half of a millennium.
They had it forced on them by the state and a group of enthusiastic goy fanatics led by a core Jewish leadership.
My opinion would be that Rome recognized, after 300 years of trying to snuff out the Christian flame, that it would be more expedient to unite a destabilized empire under the Roman Church, and given the vast problems they were already experiencing with their fringe constituents, to push on them a new united monotheistic tradition.
You simply cannot do that with Judaism, for many reasons, not the least reason being how litigious and rule-based they are. Judaism is a fucking nightmare of laws and mitzvahs and the most particular habits. It doesn't proselytize well. Again, given the Christian presence in Rome and the neighboring regions, it was just an expedient.
The Jewish Christians
You gotta pick one. These are fundamentally different things. Again, I think the reason they can be connected so casually and so simply, and why they so often are in the modern era, is people don't grasp (a) the great trick that 'secularism' has actually been, and (b) the true distinctions between these worldviews. Consider one thing for just a moment. I truly don't even know how relevant it is, but it's occurring to me as I type this. The Jews don't proselytize Judaism. Ever. They spread secular ideologies which, unlike the religious laws themselves, are not preservative, but are revolutionary for its own sake. Christianity proselytizes its own affirmed truth, for the sake of which most of its earliest adherents went to willing and gruesome deaths. I don't see the shit pushers behind SJW politics willing to be boiled in oil.
I know that the attempt has been made at Poal just as much as it was on Voat to say that Christianity is a 'socialistic' cognate of today's Communistic ideologies, but this just isn't the case. It comes from very unsophisticated understanding of Christian doctrine. (I'm speaking generally here, and not condescendingly - why would I expect anybody to pursue a sophisticated understanding of something they don't believe in...)
At least part of the problem has to do with essentializing the faiths themselves. It's arguable that this is possible. I'm sure that PS would probably rebuke me for saying that it's the wrong thing to do, but I truly believe we need to stop treating both Christianity and Judaism in terms of their 'essences', and begin treating both of these like hermeneutics, as processes. Christian should stop being a noun, and become an adjective, and a process, because I think its essence lies with its being an interpretation of reality. The same goes for Judaism. So when someone wants to slander Christianity as a kind of 'socialism with religious iconography', I can't help but think: you cannot see past but a single level of interpretation, and even on that single one you're doing a half-assed job. Neither of these traditions was ever understood according to a univocal hermeneutical system, ever. Medieval Europe is a fantastic example of the sophistication with which Christianity was once understood.
So at least part of this historical and cultural phenomenon that I think is causing people to psychologically equate Christianity with a Judaic character as absolutes (as nouns) comes from a diminished - and now impoverished - spiritual paradigm for the whole of humanity. That Christianity has a Jewish historical and geographical point of origin is far from the most significant part about it, but it's sufficient for people to see it as somehow intoxicated and irredeemable because of those connections. In order to think that way, you must look at both Communism and Christianity as imaginary products or ideological weapons, and while it may be true for the former, there is no coherent way to argue it for the latter. The Jews despised Christ, and still do. Their battle against the Catholic church is sufficient evidence that at no point, across two millennia, literally from the beginning, did Jews ever have control of Christianity.
Moreover, it makes very little sense to invent Christianity or become Christians, hand it off to Rome, who then wipes your Holy City off the map and destroys the literal heart of your religious tradition in 70 A.D., throwing you away from God's place on earth and out into the steppes or into eastern Europe.
I went a little longer here than I'd planned. If I am still inspired, I might try to do something a bit more organized tomorrow to try and demonstrate why they are so different, and why I believe this world is a lot less secular than it puts on.
Im probably gonna have to answer this in two comment or more, some now some later. I cant tackle it all because its too long! You have a ton of good stuff but I will have to go piecemeal.
Broadly, there is the tendency to be authentically creative, or a tendency to parasitize.
Boy that sums it up.
I doubt much of a case, if any, could be made phylogenetically. The Jews have been so thoroughly interbred between their various captivities and the diaspora that we are forced to go beyond mere genetics here - ... I'm picturing some polymorphism that's been duplicated such and such a number of times, and this variant could be passed on, probably maternally.
If you are simply measuring SNPs in common then no, they wont have more difference from us than any middle easterner or indian, etc. But what if there was one gene, a revolutionary gene (not in e michael jones’ sense but novel in its function) or a small set of revolutionary genes that fundamentally changed the function of an organism from an agrarian to a parasite of its own species? Cant fundamental function or strategy be a rubric for speciation? We have a lot of polymorphisms in common with chimps, but we gained speech and they didnt.
I know christians like ps may feel that there are the nice jews in the bible and then jews took a wrong turn somewhere. Not my view. Phantom42 is now very angry with me and tells me there is a bullet for me. ;-p I want to tread a little carefully here because I know this totally conflicts with christianity, but I cant accommodate that stuff in my working theory. Whatever this thing is that they do. They had the genes for it by the end of the bronze age. Or at least some.
And ashkenazi jews areapparently admixed with goyish mtDNA from some bottleneck 1500 years ago. You know what Im refering to? So if indeed 40% or more of their maternal lineage is european, it cant be a sex linked gene from mom’s side. Because then ash. jews wouldnt be quite so jewish, which they def are.
Of course you could theorize that any itinerant tribe would be selected for genes that lend themselves to parasitism. It seems that may be the case to some extent. Gypsies and irish travelers are hated almost universally for their parasitic behavior, deceptiveness— gypsies have an interesting origin story about stealing the nails that would have nailed jesus to the cross, so god gave them the right to steal. But these groups are just not as effective as jews.
Half jews are like still pretty predicatably jewy to some extent, so I think it isnt just one gene.
We should actually analyze matrilineal half jews vs patrilineal half jews. What if we found a big difference in behavioral traits! Wouldnt that be amazing?
I'd widen the view beyond even reading/writing, but include number, and more importantly: the ability to abstract.
Meh. They used characters as letters number interchangeably so their magic words had numerical significance as well but they didnt perform great math. The egyptians, the greeks, even the indians did more math. Im not saying no jews did math. But all the major math innovations were by goys, imo. Mostly germanics. I think jews tend to steal and repackage work done by goys in this area, einstein being the most glaring example. That guy that stole FM from Armstrong jumps to mind. But I could be wrong. Sounds like you know more about their numerology
I have found some of the stuff bret weinstein says really interesting, but in this recent “struggle session” incident on the Clubhouse last week, he’s proven again how he cant apply evolution to the real world when it conflicts with his jewish narrative, but I digress.
Its my understanding that the hyksos may have been initially welcomed in to egypt but eventually gained control of the north of egypt. And then had to be shown the door. And then lied about being the “victims” of exodus. Just like with the holocaust and the communist takeover of Russia. They do not value objective fact reporting. I know they arent the only people to oush a biased POV but they are the worst/best at it.
Yes Im sure some stayed behind. I think at many junctures some jews have left the tribe and assimilated with the locals. This is part of the natural selection process that makes them who they are. Jews that are less “jewish” are more likely to leave. A key mechanism for breeding such a culturally tight, nepotistic (conspiratorial?) group.
But that is a very interesting idea that the egyptians may have given them monotheism.
The Jewish religion (except for perhaps two attributes) is a Canaanite scaffold upon which was strung Babylonian/Persian and Egyptian theology. From the Babylonian obsession with the power of numbers/letters to the emanationist monotheism of Egypt, the only thing that Jews added quite characteristically to it all was (a) being obsessed with an immanent apocalypse, (b) the emphasis on messianism as a political ascendancy and earthly kingdom, and (c) covenantal language and obsession with law (which was largely to blame on Babylon anyway).
This is good stuff. You are giving me stuff to chew on, yummy.
the reprisals against Jews, whatever kind of persecution forms they take, are always viewed by the Jews as punishment by God.
Okay but their mythology ends in the iron age, unless you count that sabbatean stuff.
How do jews handle the inquisition historically? As a persecussion by goys out of the blue. Or the pogroms. They lie. To themselves. Do jews say the inquisition was divine justice? Maybe some of them do, I dunno.
God setting them apart as the moral compass of the world.
Even secular jews believe this shit. I do believe that communist jews think they are doing everyone a huge fucking favor.
What I see happening throughout history with the Jews is this fundamental inability to explain their own outcomes in any terms other than their insular world-explanation of 'God gives or God takes'.
Perhaps because they are so solipsistic, they dont even consider other groups as humans, on their level. This literal belief among observant jews may also be a real tendency in secular ones.
I think Christianity is an exception here.
I’m going to have to come back to this later. I dont even have time to read this over. But this is good interesting stuff. I feel like Im learning things and working stuff out.
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