there was a period where all the most-vaccinated countries were having COVID surges except Israel, and experts sort of shrugged and said it's because those vaccines weren't as good.

Those vaccines probably didn't sterilize the women.

The messaging is very tricky at this time, because experts don't want us to lose faith in vaccines, but they also don't want vaccinated people to act like they're invincible. The problem is, of course, that vaccinated people (with any vaccine at all) know their personal risk is lowered, and you can't make them take the same precautions they used to.

I’m not scared of the measles, tetanus, polio or anything if been vaccinated against. Why is this new super vaccine that’s supposed to change the world so shitty experts are in a “tricky situation”.

Well that’s great, but those of us with kids who can’t yet be vaccinated <12 yo just can’t leave them to raise themselves in some sort of Lord of the Flies type situation either.

No the state, you live the state and their indoctrination of children, let them raise yours.

It’s a giant pool of unvaccinated people through no fault of their own.

Yes so dangerous since they’re young and even experts are questioning the vaccines effectiveness. And the super spreaders have become the “vaccinated”.

Yeah, I can't tell parents how to approach this, though I think the kind of mild COVID infection most kids get is the kind we'll eventually all get . It's still not up to me to say what kids' risks are or what parents should do in the meantime.

You mean like 99.5+ of the people who’ve recovered? I thought last weeks narrative was it was mutating to become more contagious and deadly, which is the opposite of what usually happens.

One way or another, herd immunity probably isn't achievable until they roll out the vaccinations for children .

lol, no words. No vaccine, no lockdowns, no masks, no social distancing and this would’ve been over last year with only a few dead. Who knows if it’s the regular flu or a new/old coronavirus they keep plating in society to keep the numbers up. Either way it’s not as deadly as they claim and the vaccine may make them sicker for future infections.

They really are the chosen ones!