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The thing I find hard to believe is the teeny-trails in the sky could have an effect on anything

But is it possible the chemicals are really concentrated and when they are released, they expand a lot or something?

The thing I find hard to believe is the teeny-trails in the sky could have an effect on anything But is it possible the chemicals are really concentrated and when they are released, they expand a lot or something?

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[–] 4 pts

Water vapor condenses on particulate matter to form clouds. Hot jet engines create both water vapor and particulate matter. They are vapor trails not chemtrails. The earth is round. We landed on the moon. However...

Your government is irrereemably corrupt. There is global cabal of elites that want to control the world. There is an ongoing genocide of white people.

Please don't engage in noise conspiracies and focus on the signal.

[–] 2 pts

It's water vapor from the atmosphere.
Air goes in the engine, the "humidity" in the air vaporizes in the hot engine, and it goes out the exhaust with the spent fuel gases.
When it hits the cold air (-30°C or colder is common at 35,000 ft.) it condenses to make a cloud.

Start your car on a cold winter day and observe the same effect.

Any secret additive would quickly destroy the engine.

[–] 2 pts

Correct. What people don't understand is jet engine technology has significantly changed over time. As has fuel.

The first jets created very significant trails because tolerances were poor and jet fuel was less refined. Air fuel mixtures were manually controlled based on temp readings and adjustments were based on panel scan times and differing weather as they traveled.

In the 1970s, early computer controlled turbines entered the scene. Metallurgy, oil refinement, and engine tolerances all improved. This in turn changed engine temps and significantly changed exhaust characteristics. By the 1980s, this technology entered broad use and the nature of contrails began to change again.

By the end of the 1990s, metallurgy and computer controlled turbine efficiency changed again. As did manufacturing technology of turbine blades, allowing for amazingly tight tolerances. As did anti-freeze fuel additives. This again changed exhaust profiles and contrails.

I'm sure some level of research has taken place but it's certainly nowhere near as invasive as the conspiracy leads people to believe. For example, metal found everywhere. They claim it's in the fuel. This would be extremely abrasive and total turbine failure would be extremely common. Who would do this to multi million dollar turbines? Ignoring the fact turbines are more reliable than ever.

[–] 0 pt

Actually, you don't need to be a scientist to see the changes happening in our atmosphere. The vivid sunsets are a telltale sign of particulate in our upper atmosphere. Couple the deep red and orange sunsets with the spectrometry of certain elements and you can get a good idea of what is up there.

[–] 0 pt

There's zero sarcasm when I say: that is really interesting.

[–] 0 pt

Its also really basic science....

[–] -1 pt

vapor trails only happened on older, direct drive jet engines. we now use turbofan engines, they do not and cannot create vapor trails. even with the old engines vapor trails were not very common. required very specific atmospheric conditions.

[–] 0 pt

It happens all the time.

Fuck all to do with the engine. Youre thinking of exhaust.

CONtrails are compressed air and very visible and common.

[–] -1 pt

The "Moon Landings" were a series of films. Nothing more.

Whether "we" have gone to the moon neither you or I know. But what was shown on TV was undeniably a series of films with the purpose of planting the seed of belief in the minds of the viewers that the "moon landings", as artistically represented within the films, actually happened.