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A difficult summer for the Starliner program continued this week, with Boeing reporting additional losses on the vehicle's development and NASA saying it's too early to discuss potential launch dates for the crewed spacecraft.

Throughout this spring, NASA and Boeing had been working toward a July launch date of the spacecraft, which will carry two astronauts for the first time. However, just weeks before this launch was due to occur, Boeing announced on June 1 that there were two serious issues with Starliner. One of these involved the "soft links" in the lines that connect the Starliner capsule to its parachutes, and the second problem came with hundreds of feet of P-213 glass cloth tape inside the spacecraft found to be flammable.

On Wednesday, as a part of its quarterly earnings update, Boeing announced that the Starliner program had taken a loss of $257 million "primarily due to the impacts of the previously announced launch delay." This brings the company's total write-down of losses on the Starliner program to more than $1.1 billion. Partly because of this, Boeing's Defense, Space, & Security division reported a loss of $527 million during the second quarter of this year.

Because Starliner was funded by NASA through a fixed-price contract, as part of the Commercial Crew program, Boeing is responsible for any cost overruns and financial losses due to delays.

If anyone believes that Boeing's pet Congressmen will not allow them to renegotiate that last bit, you're delusional.

[Source.](https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/07/boeing-has-now-lost-1-1-billion-on-starliner-with-no-crew-flight-in-sight/) > A difficult summer for the Starliner program continued this week, with Boeing reporting additional losses on the vehicle's development and NASA saying it's too early to discuss potential launch dates for the crewed spacecraft. > Throughout this spring, NASA and Boeing had been working toward a July launch date of the spacecraft, which will carry two astronauts for the first time. However, just weeks before this launch was due to occur, Boeing announced on June 1 that there were two serious issues with Starliner. One of these involved the "soft links" in the lines that connect the Starliner capsule to its parachutes, and the second problem came with hundreds of feet of P-213 glass cloth tape inside the spacecraft found to be flammable. > On Wednesday, as a part of its quarterly earnings update, Boeing announced that the Starliner program had taken a loss of $257 million "primarily due to the impacts of the previously announced launch delay." This brings the company's total write-down of losses on the Starliner program to more than $1.1 billion. Partly because of this, Boeing's Defense, Space, & Security division reported a loss of $527 million during the second quarter of this year. > Because Starliner was funded by NASA through a fixed-price contract, as part of the Commercial Crew program, Boeing is responsible for any cost overruns and financial losses due to delays. If anyone believes that Boeing's pet Congressmen will not allow them to renegotiate that last bit, you're delusional.

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Why are idiotic humans pretending it's 2500 AD?

Fix Earth first morons.

Let's start very simple. The Moon is a 3 day flight vs Mars and its 8 month flight.

Make a Moon base and then let's examine further possibilities.

Earth first, Moon second. Mars is as stupid an idea as the Titan submersible.

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Make a Moon base and then let's examine further possibilities.

^ This! We're planning on Mars (and further) without understanding what a base on the moon would enable us to do. Getting ahead of ourselves. As we all know, governments don't care about wasting ta dollars...

Earth first, Moon second. Mars is as stupid an idea as the Titan submersible.

As I said, we're getting ahead of ourselves. If private businesses want to try it, let them. (Stop subsidizing Space-X.)

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It's blatant ignorance and stupidity riddled with bravado and grandeur when I we have not successfully built a human inhabited Moon base yet and are now talking about Mars?

Utterly stupid and ridiculous.

We can't even build a Moon base 3 days by flight away, yet we talk about living on Mars?

The 8 month flight alone to Mars makes it completely impossible with our current technology.