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It is clear they have multiple alts they are using to downvote specific users this is brigading. I did not want to ban anyone but I have attempted to contact this person multiple times without any response. So here is there voting log and registration log of alts. I would like to say I really did not want to do this. However I have observed them using these accounts to try and manipulate the voting system. It bothers me that I could not find another option. I wish they would have responded and been open to a dialogue about it. So without further comment here are the screen caps.

https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117939.PNG

https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117940.PNG

https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117941.PNG

https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117942.PNG

https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117943.PNG

https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117944.PNG

https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117945.PNG

This is my attempt to provide documentation proving an attempt to game the system. If anyone objects to it let me know and I will consider reversing the ban. However something had to be done. Brigading will not be tolerated here it is not speech it is censorship.

It is clear they have multiple alts they are using to downvote specific users this is brigading. I did not want to ban anyone but I have attempted to contact this person multiple times without any response. So here is there voting log and registration log of alts. I would like to say I really did not want to do this. However I have observed them using these accounts to try and manipulate the voting system. It bothers me that I could not find another option. I wish they would have responded and been open to a dialogue about it. So without further comment here are the screen caps. https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117939.PNG https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117940.PNG https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117941.PNG https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117942.PNG https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117943.PNG https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117944.PNG https://imgoat.com/uploads/ef059938ba/117945.PNG This is my attempt to provide documentation proving an attempt to game the system. If anyone objects to it let me know and I will consider reversing the ban. However something had to be done. Brigading will not be tolerated here it is not speech it is censorship.

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[–] 10 pts (edited )

Went to ban the user and the ban function isn't working currently so I will correct that and this will happen shortly. For now I am just resetting the password so the account cannot be logged into.

[–] 8 pts

Appreciate the transparency with your authority mate.

I bet he spends his time disliking youtube videos without watching them too. :L

[–] 6 pts

Eh, I'll dislike youtube videos without watching anytime the comments are disabled. It's automatic: No comments, hit that thumbs down.

[–] [deleted] 6 pts

Why not just remove the dv function while the site is small? Thanks for being transparent

[–] 8 pts

+1 for removing dvs. I think a different model is a good idea. I posted about upvote only with a spam button. No down vote.

[–] [deleted] 5 pts

PMYB2 wants discussion and dv adds nothing to a discussion.

[–] 1 pt

I would say he wants free speech first and foremost. I don't see how removing DV inhibits speech at all. But someone else posted if you remove dv, then they manipulate up votes and so on.

[–] 6 pts

I disagree w this idea. Removing the DV is silly. Look at Facebook. No Dislike button there and it's just an echo chamber of feel-good bullshit. If we are to have votes we must have both up and down.

[–] [deleted] 3 pts

I personally think we just do away with voting altogether.

[–] 2 pts

With a site this small and not growing at a very pace this is a very interesting idea to explore.

That's the thing with poal; it's so small right now. Why not test out a bunch of these ideas.

[–] 1 pt

I could be down w that. All or nothing. We'd need a system to replace it. But I think views and comments could work. If a submission gets a lot of views and comments that activity would drive it up the page. Which also can be gamed of course. But if we're to have votes, I want both up and down.

[–] 2 pts

Only a downvote button. Nothing to see here!

I'm just looking for ideas to counter brigades and promote discussion. Most of us saw how voat fell

[–] 2 pts

Right on. It's something I've been thinking about lately too. There must be a better system. What it is escapes me.

[–] 5 pts

Agreed. At least test it for a week or two and get user feedback. Removing downvotes would really set this site apart from others.

Plus there's little spam here. Promote some janitors if your worried about spam.

[–] 3 pts

Bad idea. Then people just group up and UV the comments they want to rise. It's the same effect. DV can be used at the community level to push down obvious shilling. The best way is no voting at all, a spam button, and ability to hide posts. Actually a counter of "X users have hidden this post" might be interesting.

[–] 2 pts

I agree, too. DV adds nothing, but causes endless drama on all these sites. I see the whole DV thing as a worthless remnant of Reddit. Voten.co has already done this. Instead you UV if you like, don't vote if you don't wish to, and spam is flagged by an easy to use spam report button.

[–] 3 pts

I really don't get people who do shit like that. They are such losers in life that they have nothing better to do than down vote people on a very small site? Man, I'm so busy with so many things, that would never make my cut of things to do today....

[–] 3 pts

You did right, Superman. 👍

[–] 2 pts

Coulda sworn I had caught some of those DVs. Anyway, great looking out for the poaler bears

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

Not going to lie, I was saddened not to see my name in the list of their down votes. I need to try harder.

[–] 1 pt

I take a non response as likely guilty. Of what unknown but guilty of something.