I genuinely hate having to do things like this I avoid it as much as I can. However there are people that come here looking for a ban to prove this place doesn't have free speech and it forces me to act I avoid it for as long as I can. I really do. Its why I generally don't just issue bans I disable the account and ask the person to talk. So that we can come to a solution to the issue and then I can re enable the account and we can all move on.
However there are people that come here looking for a ban to prove this place doesn't have free speech
He didn't just voice a controversial opinion or argument - he made accusations against others. Accusing them to be transgender and furthermore to lie about it.
To me the point of valuing free speech is to have people voice opinions and arguments even if controversial. Not to make unreasonable accusations.
And not just one or two accusations but dozens per day and hundreds overall. In the process drowning the voices and content of others who do not spam theirs.
And even if it weren't accusations I think the sheer volume of content he posted was abusive. I think he demonstrated quite well why voat has a point with restricting the amount of submissions for new and highly downvoted accounts. It allows the community to regulate this behavior while still giving a user the option to post their content.
I'm a Voat mod and yes that's why we have those restrictions and why we couldn't back down on the rate limiting when the Admin/Owner was looking at doing so.
Voat's been hit with a couple waves of whole groups pulling this kind of garbage. At one point anonymous subs were event set up to harass users via @ posts.
I have a decent size block list. I flat out tell people, I'm done with this so welcome to my block list. By personally blocking them I've never had to block anyone from the subs I mod/own in the four+ years I've been on Voat. Because the people doing spamming realize they're wasting their time because other top users will also block them.
Yeah I get you don’t like doing it, but at the end of the day do you feel that it was handled with the best means available to you?
I think you did.
What else can you do really? That user is specific to slander and hatred for everything. Much like a nigger. Just tear shit down others built up because fuck it why not?
I got zero faith this person will talk in a reasonable manner. Pretty sure they will make an alt and then go right back at it to get banned again and again.
I spent a long time considering my options I spent hours of my time trying to reason with this person. I would be willing to spend hours more trying to reason with him, but if the only response I can get no matter what I say is "idgaf" and "you are a tranny" then no discussion can really be had. All I want is for him to stop trying to silence people. Thats it nothing more. If this is the only way I can accomplish that goal then, what other option is he really leaving me with?
I sure hope if he makes an alt its to have a reasonable discussion.
That last part shows that you are the type for this job.
I can’t stand people who are always just disruptive and crude. Wanna call someone a nigger faggot, tranny, or whatever? Hey fine, but when it’s all you ever say then you add zero to the community and deserve to be voted off the island.
Unfortunately people are under so much control with their lives this place and ones like it are their only outlet. So they manifest all that is worthless within the world and form that into their persona online.
Seen it since my days of reddit. Then on voat.
These people are just bored home bodies and I really find that this place and voat especially has this. People within these places have over inflated egos and want to think they are important so they cry out shill shill.
Voat is likely just a honeypot for law enforcement because the FBI hasn’t cought one criminal they didn’t help make.
Just go there and read the comment within some post about illegals, or even Muslims. All they parrot is about killing people and when you attempt to voice reason it’s quickly downvoted.
I hope this place doesn’t become like that. I really hope the users can just make this place reasonable and not so fuckin vile all the time.
That way you don’t have to do what you did.
Very little of this is your fault. If anything, you're too lenient.
I genuinely hate having to do things like this
Then you're not going to do a good job of running this site. People who come here should want to fit in. Banning someone because their an asshole, is the sanest solution to dealing with assholes. If you'd given him a year, he wouldn't have become any less of an asshole. He'd merely have rattled everyone else that much and made the rest of us worse.
If you ban him you absolutely prove this site does not have free speech, prove me wrong
I’ve already made an annoucement about how we intend to solve this and it does not involve banning anyone all of his alts he has quite a few will be re enabled after we push the new feature.
Absolutely the better idea, no doubt
You're an asshole. Eat a bag of dicks.
That took me about 2 minutes to understand
I'm a little slow sometimes
(post is archived)