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When you can make them as bullet proof as the FLYING cars from the fifth element movie, maybe I will consider one.

[edit] yes, I posted about the movie then posted about it again. I am tired. Fuck this week.

When you can make them as bullet proof as the FLYING cars from the fifth element movie, maybe I will consider one. [edit] yes, I posted about the movie then posted about it again. I am tired. Fuck this week.
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it seems useless other than a "errand" car.

In some places, that would be a plus. Downtown major cities, or places where you don't commute far. It's not a primary vehicle, but great as a secondary.

Your absolutely right about the telemetry though. That said, it's not like everyone else isn't doing it, too.

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In places like that, it costs more to park than to own the car you drive in. Or, at least that is what they are trying to do. [edit] I should also mention that most people cannot afford a "second vehicle" especially if it is not a old gas veh. Just a thought.

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Not necessarily. I grew up in east LA, learned to drive in Long Island, NY, and lived on the Portland/Vancouver border for 10 years. If you don't live in the city proper, but go into it, a small car is a godsend. Most people don't park downtown very often, either. In LA, you avoid downtown, Portland yeah I paid once or twice but generally there's free parking, and New York....ok yeah, you don't take a car into Manhattan unless your masochistic, but all the burrows around it are doable, and generally free parking. The same theme applies though: The smaller the car, the easier it is to maneuver in traffic. Would I make it my main car? Fuck no, I have my truck for that. But for my wife, or kids? Good option, assuming snow and ice isn't a threat. Where I currently live, it's not a HUGE threat, but it is a consideration

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I get you, we have very different use cases. I hated LA have not been to portland but kind of hated NYC too.

I can buy a gaser in cash for ~3200 (or could a while back) that has a mile range of around 300 miles and there are fuel stations anywhere in the country for the most part that take ~5 minutes to fuel up. I can also carry extra gas with me.

I can also do this with a 20 year old vehicle and as long as I keep it in good shape the mileage basically never goes down and it will work in conditions a EV cannot current work in for more than about 50 miles. I have never seen people in EV's pulling people out of snow drifts or out of mud pits. If I am you neighbor and you are stuck, you are happy I don't drive a EV even if you do.

I can drive through 3ft of snow and not worry about the vehicle getting too cold or getting water damage to a battery that might go up in flames.

You have to get what makes sense to you and where you are. Everyone should do that. It should not be a "one thing for everyone" sort of thing.