But dude, Science is settled and consensus means there's no more debate. Why are you anti-Science?
But dude, Science is settled and consensus means there's no more debate. Why are you anti-Science?
But the mRNA drugs are "definitely not going to alter your genes; that's impossible!"
But the mRNA drugs are "definitely not going to alter your genes; that's impossible!"
It's called Reverse Transcription, and it's not a new discovery.
It's called Reverse Transcription, and it's not a new discovery.
Reverse transcription itself, no (not since HIV and other viruses that use RT). But a native protein in human cells, polymerase theta, using reverse transcription is a new discovery. i.e. reverse transcription through an enzyme other than reverse transcriptase, which is not native to human (or mammalian in general) cells, is a new discovery.
Reverse transcription itself, no (not since HIV and other viruses that use RT). But a *native protein in human cells*, polymerase theta, using reverse transcription *is* a new discovery. i.e. reverse transcription through an enzyme other than reverse transcriptase, which is not native to human (or mammalian in general) cells, is a new discovery.
Makes sense, thanks for clarifying.
Makes sense, thanks for clarifying.
viruses don't exist dude...jesus get with the research and information age
exosomes, what you call viruses are called exosomes, virology is a now disproven theory for anyone objectively paying attention
viruses don't exist dude...jesus get with the research and information age
exosomes, what you call viruses are called exosomes, virology is a now disproven theory for anyone objectively paying attention
And if it happens in your testes or the ovaries then the changes will be passed on to your offspring.
And if it happens in your testes or the ovaries then the changes will be passed on to your offspring.
So it's going to be like that movie children of men where something caused them all to be sterile for generations? Knew it affected females placenta but males too and it get passed down, which means we will all have to make damn sure our children dont breed with jabbers, they'll die out I guess sooner or later whether vax damage or sterile DNA. Good to know.
So it's going to be like that movie children of men where something caused them all to be sterile for generations? Knew it affected females placenta but males too and it get passed down, which means we will all have to make damn sure our children dont breed with jabbers, they'll die out I guess sooner or later whether vax damage or sterile DNA. Good to know.
lmfao
fun fact, you can "pick up" the MRNA sequence from a vaxxed person by sleeping with them rawdog
the more you know!
lmfao
fun fact, you can "pick up" the MRNA sequence from a vaxxed person by sleeping with them rawdog
the more you know!
For some reason this keeps reminding me of AIDS, is it just me? Like, doubt you can get damage from touching or hugging a person but open wounds, needle shares, sexual contact can spread it and it attacks your entire body. Starting to think AIDS was manufactured too, which would make sense since this virus they say also shares some things in common that dont happen naturally in nature.
For some reason this keeps reminding me of AIDS, is it just me? Like, doubt you can get damage from touching or hugging a person but open wounds, needle shares, sexual contact can spread it and it attacks your entire body. Starting to think AIDS was manufactured too, which would make sense since this virus they say also shares some things in common that dont happen naturally in nature.
AIDS is fake and gay...it's ACTUALLY caused because of an over saturation of toxic substances in one's body, which is why degenerate faggots always pick it up...Virology is a bunk science, if you look into it you will find the "Terrain" theory is actually correct, "viruses" are nothing but exosomes, something produced by the body when cell death occurs
That's why it reminds you of AIDS, they have been promoting the de-whitening of white countries for so long now people can't even see it because it's "normal" to them.
AIDS is fake and gay...it's ACTUALLY caused because of an over saturation of toxic substances in one's body, which is why degenerate faggots always pick it up...Virology is a bunk science, if you look into it you will find the "Terrain" theory is actually correct, "viruses" are nothing but exosomes, something produced by the body when cell death occurs
That's why it reminds you of AIDS, they have been promoting the de-whitening of white countries for so long now people can't even see it because it's "normal" to them.
Smart cells we have, don't let 'science' get in the way.
Smart cells we have, don't let 'science' get in the way.
omfg fuck off
people were warning people about this 18 months ago, if you took the jab, what happens now is on you, stay the fuck away from the smart people who didn't take the vax because they did 5 minutes of research 18 months ago WHEN THIS WAS FUCKING ANNOUNCED
jesus you dumb fucks...don't listen to anyone...expect people to care for your well being after you actively partook in the censoring of your fellow countrymen about THIS VERY TOPIC
you can counteract the jab, but i'm not telling you how
omfg fuck off
people were warning people about this 18 months ago, if you took the jab, what happens now is on you, stay the fuck away from the smart people who didn't take the vax because they did 5 minutes of research 18 months ago WHEN THIS WAS FUCKING ANNOUNCED
jesus you dumb fucks...don't listen to anyone...expect people to care for your well being after you actively partook in the censoring of your fellow countrymen about THIS VERY TOPIC
you can counteract the jab, but i'm not telling you how
Ughh don't be one of those annoying dicks and just tell people to take ivermectin.
Ughh don't be one of those annoying dicks and just tell people to take ivermectin.
ivermectin is useless LMFAO
Ivermectin is what is used against certain types of influenza...those people in the hospitals with "covid" who are actually sick have the flu, that's it
Ivermectin won't help you with nanotech...literally 0%
and yes I will be one of those annoying dicks, because people who actively tried to get me fired for trying to warn them to not take the vax are all lockstep on this one...they ran out and got a jab 12 months after information was out that it was almost certain to kill lots of people...now you want me to have sympathy for them? run out and champion the cause of "holding vaccine companies accountable"???
How do you suggest that? they are literally bound from being prosecuted, even if you can prove they knowingly and maliciously caused death on a massive scale...that's been in law before covid even started.
I'm not the one being an actual dick here...some commie cunt coming onto the one little spot online we can still talk freely begging for "advice" here...he has reddit, let him go there and hear about how the vaccine is perfectly safe.
ivermectin is useless LMFAO
Ivermectin is what is used against certain types of influenza...those people in the hospitals with "covid" who are actually sick have the flu, that's it
Ivermectin won't help you with nanotech...literally 0%
and yes I will be one of those annoying dicks, because people who actively tried to get me fired for trying to warn them to not take the vax are all lockstep on this one...they ran out and got a jab 12 months after information was out that it was almost certain to kill lots of people...now you want me to have sympathy for them? run out and champion the cause of "holding vaccine companies accountable"???
How do you suggest that? they are literally bound from being prosecuted, even if you can prove they knowingly and maliciously caused death on a massive scale...that's been in law before covid even started.
I'm not the one being an actual dick here...some commie cunt coming onto the one little spot online we can still talk freely begging for "advice" here...he has reddit, let him go there and hear about how the vaccine is perfectly safe.
Have you ever asked your self why no one wants to listen to you when you have all of this amazing information to share?
You are literally on a site full of sympathizers that are highly receptive to anti narratives and you manage to make even me not want to read your posts.
You need to learn to read the room.
Have you ever asked your self why no one wants to listen to you when you have all of this amazing information to share?
You are literally on a site full of sympathizers that are highly receptive to anti narratives and you manage to make even me not want to read your posts.
You need to learn to read the room.
some commie cunt coming onto the one little spot online we can still talk freely begging for "advice" here
Who is begging for advice? Some other thread? Certainly not this one; I'm a former molecular biologist and, having known about HIV-RT and other RT proteins, I had no doubt mRNA could be transcribed to DNA and integrated into the host genome. I have advised everyone I know against getting mRNA drugs for various reasons. "It's not gene therapy! It can't alter your DNA" I often heard - here's proof that RNA is regularly reverse-transcribed back to DNA.
As for "counteracting" a rewrite in your genetic code... unless you're talking CRISPR, it aini't happening.
Also if you were on /r/covidvaccinated you would see some crazy shit... people like "just got out of a 5 day stay in the hospital with myocarditis and fever/swelling all over my body after the first jab... should I get the second?" You'd also be way ahead of the curve on the myocarditis in general; every day there's a new story about some young healthy dipshit with massive heart swelling because they're terrible at risk assessment.
Also the elevated PSA levels is a pretty crazy thing for a "vaccine" to do.
> some commie cunt coming onto the one little spot online we can still talk freely begging for "advice" here
Who is begging for advice? Some other thread? Certainly not this one; I'm a former molecular biologist and, having known about HIV-RT and other RT proteins, I had no doubt mRNA could be transcribed to DNA and integrated into the host genome. I have advised everyone I know against getting mRNA drugs for various reasons. "It's not gene therapy! It *can't* alter your DNA" I often heard - here's proof that RNA is *regularly* reverse-transcribed back to DNA.
As for "counteracting" a rewrite in your genetic code... unless you're talking CRISPR, it aini't happening.
Also if you were on /r/covidvaccinated you would see some crazy shit... people like "just got out of a 5 day stay in the hospital with myocarditis and fever/swelling all over my body after the first jab... should I get the second?" You'd also be way ahead of the curve on the myocarditis in general; every day there's a new story about some young healthy dipshit with massive heart swelling because they're terrible at risk assessment.
Also the elevated PSA levels [giving false positives for prostate cancer](https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/palm-beach-county-urologist-seeing-false-psa-levels-in-men-due-to-covid-vaccines/ar-AAKPMBR) is a pretty crazy thing for a "vaccine" to do.
How do our friends on Poal get this information then? You surely can't blame strangers in the same fight as you for what happened to you? It would be irresponsible to know something and not keep trying to reach somebody with what you know. That's why bible thumpers take so much shit every day and still go out to preach, because they end up reaching someone.
So preach about the cure brother and let us all help those who need it.
How do our friends on Poal get this information then? You surely can't blame strangers in the same fight as you for what happened to you? It would be irresponsible to know something and not keep trying to reach somebody with what you know. That's why bible thumpers take so much shit every day and still go out to preach, because they end up reaching someone.
So preach about the cure brother and let us all help those who need it.
Make me feel better and tell me there was no nanotech in the swabs, which the hospital forced us to get when I gave birth to my babies and if there was PM me how to purge the nano if that's what they are saying, none of us have ever showed any signs of being sick so I think everyone is fine TBH. We have so many chemtrails here in OK Im sure we're overloaded in nano and lithium anyways. I personally don't think the swabs were infected besides the contaminated ones they magically found out to try and spread the actual virus itself and pump the numbers for fear mongering and media hype, which you saw many cases of people going to get tested and leaving due to long lines and yet they got a call days later saying oops, you got rona, I don't think that would have been a thing if they just went straight to the source and infected the swabs themselves, they wouldnt have had to spread a lie if the swabs were a guarenteed thing, you know? Getting rona naturally would have been a better option since your body would fight it naturally anyways just like another flu or cold, thankfully none of us contracted that shit yet and we didnt get flu shots now for years which increased the chances of contracting it anyways and kept our immune system good. Ugh.
Make me feel better and tell me there was no nanotech in the swabs, which the hospital forced us to get when I gave birth to my babies and if there was PM me how to purge the nano if that's what they are saying, none of us have ever showed any signs of being sick so I think everyone is fine TBH. We have so many chemtrails here in OK Im sure we're overloaded in nano and lithium anyways. I personally don't think the swabs were infected besides the contaminated ones they magically found out to try and spread the actual virus itself and pump the numbers for fear mongering and media hype, which you saw many cases of people going to get tested and leaving due to long lines and yet they got a call days later saying oops, you got rona, I don't think that would have been a thing if they just went straight to the source and infected the swabs themselves, they wouldnt have had to spread a lie if the swabs were a guarenteed thing, you know? Getting rona naturally would have been a better option since your body would fight it naturally anyways just like another flu or cold, thankfully none of us contracted that shit yet and we didnt get flu shots now for years which increased the chances of contracting it anyways and kept our immune system good. Ugh.
It's not like designing DNA is simple, where you just decide you want a protein that does some task or a new body part and you can determine what DNA will generate that.
It's not like designing DNA is simple, where you just decide you want a protein that does some task or a new body part and you can determine what DNA will generate that.
It's not like designing DNA is simple, where you just decide you want a protein that does some task
Actually it kinda is that simple. I've spliced the beta galactosidase gene into literally countless bacteria, along with genetic code for anything from a novel phenylalanine hydroxylase mutant protein to canine heartworm IgG. It's the same way medical-grade insulin and HGH are made too. Certain cells have well-characterized genomes that can be cut in specific places (enzyme digestion) and have custom-tailored DNA fragments inserted through heat shock or a number of other techniques.
Now yea a new body part or creating an entirely-new metabolic pathway or even just creating one new protein in a multicellular biological system and not upsetting the rest of the balance is, well, nigh impossible. But we manipulate DNA to produce proteins for us all the time and have been since... like the 60s I think? It's been in regular practice since at least the 70s.
> It's not like designing DNA is simple, where you just decide you want a protein that does some task
Actually it kinda is that simple. I've spliced the beta galactosidase gene into literally countless bacteria, along with genetic code for anything from a novel phenylalanine hydroxylase mutant protein to canine heartworm IgG. It's the same way medical-grade insulin and HGH are made too. Certain cells have well-characterized genomes that can be cut in specific places (enzyme digestion) and have custom-tailored DNA fragments inserted through heat shock or a number of other techniques.
Now yea a new body part or creating an entirely-new metabolic pathway or even just creating one new protein in a multicellular biological system and not upsetting the rest of the balance is, well, nigh impossible. But we manipulate DNA to produce proteins for us all the time and have been since... like the 60s I think? It's been in regular practice since at least the 70s.
Thanks for your post, that was a good read.
I have learned over the years that whenever I hear an opinion on a specific enough of an issue that has a high degree of certainty as part of the narrative that it is almost always wrong because:
1) The universe is messy and imprecise.
2) The universe seems to trend toward higher entropy and creating order (and therefore higher levels of precision) requires energy applied in very specific ways.
Keeping that in mind makes all sorts of interesting accidents are incredibly likely regardless of how sure we are of our selves. I appreciate you posting about rna writing into dna a possibility, everyone seems so unbelievably sure this cannot happen.
The other day Linus Torvalds posted a beautiful example of why leadership is difficult - he posted a set of propositions about mrna gene therapies and assumptions around them with such clarity and certainty that it is absolutely clear to anyone with even minor experience that he must be wrong. To anyone with even a slightly favourable view toward mrna based gene therapies he came across as gods word on the subject. It was really interesting to watch everyones response.
I really like posts like yours because you speak about the probabilities of risk / reward and what can possibly happen in a way that matches observed reality. I enjoyed watching Brett and Pierre talking about this subject matter with a similarly balanced approach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q01LUg97eto
Thanks for your thoughts, please keep on posting.
Thanks for your post, that was a good read.
I have learned over the years that whenever I hear an opinion on a specific enough of an issue that has a high degree of certainty as part of the narrative that it is almost always wrong because:
1) The universe is messy and imprecise.
2) The universe seems to trend toward higher entropy and creating order (and therefore higher levels of precision) requires energy applied in very specific ways.
Keeping that in mind makes all sorts of interesting accidents are incredibly likely regardless of how sure we are of our selves. I appreciate you posting about rna writing into dna a possibility, everyone seems so unbelievably sure this cannot happen.
The other day Linus Torvalds posted a beautiful example of why leadership is difficult - he posted a set of propositions about mrna gene therapies and assumptions around them with such clarity and certainty that it is absolutely clear to anyone with even minor experience that he must be wrong. To anyone with even a slightly favourable view toward mrna based gene therapies he came across as gods word on the subject. It was really interesting to watch everyones response.
I really like posts like yours because you speak about the probabilities of risk / reward and what can possibly happen in a way that matches observed reality. I enjoyed watching Brett and Pierre talking about this subject matter with a similarly balanced approach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q01LUg97eto
Thanks for your thoughts, please keep on posting.
What you describe involves having libraries of DNA from another genome, characterized, and the tools to cut it, no? I assume an organism wouldn't have this available. Or do you actually mean just composing new sequences from scratch to do some desired thing?
What you describe involves having libraries of DNA from another genome, characterized, and the tools to cut it, no? I assume an organism wouldn't have this available. Or do you actually mean just composing new sequences from scratch to do some desired thing?
What you describe involves having libraries of DNA from another genome, characterized, and the tools to cut it, no? I assume an organism wouldn't have this available
Yes and no. In a laboratory, you harvest a DNA plasmid, use a to create the ends of the DNA you seek to hybridize, then use polymerase to insert your gene, then insert that plasmid into the host cell. But those enzymes exist in nature... but yes some wild cell out in nature isn't going to just encounter, idk, a plastic straw and think, "Oh, I need a protein that can cut PVC, I'll just build a DNA sequence that codes for a protein that can do that!" But certainly genes are accidentally spliced in nature.
Or do you actually mean just composing new sequences from scratch to do some desired thing?
Usually the sequence to code the protein is actually built from scratch. DNA/RNA synthesizers can be had for ~$10k or so, and I think there are synthesizers out there than can produce entire genomes (been out of that game for over a decade, but I would suspect they exist).
In my student research days ~20 years ago it was just: translate the AA sequence to an RNA sequence, translate that to DNA (avoiding thymine dimers and other rules), then drop that off at the "synthesis shop" and come back in a day or however long it took them to get to you (sometimes same day). Like dropping off fabrication specs at a machine shop... kinda nuts looking back on it.
>What you describe involves having libraries of DNA from another genome, characterized, and the tools to cut it, no? I assume an organism wouldn't have this available
Yes and no. In a laboratory, you harvest a DNA plasmid, use a [purified restriction enzyme](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_enzyme) to create the ends of the DNA you seek to hybridize, then use polymerase to insert your gene, then insert that plasmid into the host cell. But those enzymes exist in nature... but yes some wild cell out in nature isn't going to just encounter, idk, a plastic straw and think, "Oh, I need a protein that can cut PVC, I'll just build a DNA sequence that codes for a protein that can do that!" But certainly genes are accidentally spliced in nature.
>Or do you actually mean just composing new sequences from scratch to do some desired thing?
Usually the sequence to code the protein is actually built from scratch. DNA/RNA synthesizers can be had for ~$10k or so, and I think there are synthesizers out there than can produce entire genomes (been out of that game for over a decade, but I would suspect they exist).
In my student research days ~20 years ago it was just: translate the AA sequence to an RNA sequence, translate that to DNA (avoiding thymine dimers and other rules), then drop that off at the "synthesis shop" and come back in a day or however long it took them to get to you (sometimes same day). Like dropping off fabrication specs at a machine shop... kinda nuts looking back on it.
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