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Bacon fans, rejoice, you can and should eat saturated animal fats. Fuck polysaturated vegetable oils!

Bacon fans, rejoice, you can and should eat saturated animal fats. Fuck polysaturated vegetable oils!

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There was a time when i believed that margarine was the healthy alternative. I'm glad that is over.

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Too bad that damage is already done.. and permanent.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarine#Market_acceptance Margarine has a particular market value to those who observe the Jewish dietary laws of Kashrut, which forbids the mixing of meat and dairy products; hence there are strictly kosher non-dairy margarines available, known as Pareve. One brand known to the Kosher-keeping public is Fleischmann's Margarine.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

that's a fact, Salt is good too...but people still cling to jewish fraudulent science...like a battered wife. Oil is just liquid fat. At least butter has other minerals and vitamins all mixed in....and you need fat as energy and to digest vitamins A,D, E, and K

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Do you know how much fat a healthy male adult (around 200lbs) should eat per day?

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

fuck off, I pour so much butter lard and bacon in my food, and I am healthy as a horse...look at the French...traditionally they use a lot butter and drink a lot wine, and traditionally were slim

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ah ah ah, that was a genuine question. I'm 200lbs, lol.

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Nice way to answer his question.

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you have to balance it with vegetables though

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There's 9kcal per gram of fat, whereas protein and carbs are less than half. 220g's of fat will satisfy your daily requirements. It's not easy to eat that much fat per day. 150g's and the rest protein and carbs is much easier. Olive oil, coconut oil, lots of broccoli, asparagus, fish, red meat, dark poultry meat, sardines, olives, ham, pecans, macadamia nuts, pistachios, pesto made with extra virgin olive oil, cheese, yogurt(whole plain), strawberries, avocados, flat bread Unsweetened beef jerky pork rinds, onions, raw garlic, zucchini.

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also, every single cell in your body is mostly lipids, so in a way fat is what animals are made of. it makes absolutely no sense to go on a low fat diet.

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Salt isnt good. To much sodium causes problems.

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts (edited )

salt is absolutely necessary for health.
https://empoweredsustenance.com/salt-is-good-for-you/

where things go awry is people don't intake enough potassium. sodium and potassium work together.

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My HS football trainer had us all take a salt tablet and eat a banana. Maybe he was on to something.

The coach, on the other hand, made showers mandatory and after I was long finished with high school, his son was arrested for creeping on school children.

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I know we need salt. But food consumed especially on America is way to high in sodium content.

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If you go salt free for 6 months. Salt will taste like the nastiest shit ever. Salt is a rock, only plants are able to break down rock and utilize it.

Salt destroys your liver and brain cells.

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Sodium is necessary for health it's found from food. Salt is a rock. Plants can break down and utilize rocks we aint plants.

You seen the frog legs dancing vid https://youtu.be/2YZJt_Bw3eo

It's a short video but the legs actually spasm for around 25-30 minutes

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I don't think this is considered to be true any longer. Not only can you eat as much salt as you want, if you are cooking your food your body will tell you how much salt you need.

If you can cook by removing sugars, starches and vegetable oils you will naturally downregulate how much you consume of everything including salt.

[–] [deleted] • -1 pt

go suck jewish science dick. to be clear I consume good salt. sea salt. I know where to get it. Also I am well hydrated. If you drink too much water, have diareah, drink alcohol or coffee or tea you lose minerals. You need to maintain a certain level. If you believe salt is bad. I can almost guarantee you need more. If you are consuming too much salt, your tongue will let you know. Also if you want to thin your blood because you are afraid of a heart attack, drink water. Apparently when my grandma added water to her gravy, it always thinned it out. go figure.

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This is true.

I have been doing this for the last 6 months:

  • No sugar
  • No starch
  • No vegetable fats
  • Eat once every 24 hours

However, in order to reduce my consumption I had to learn how to cook because my body drives me to eat a variety of interesting things.

The strange thing is that 6 months in, I now have no cravings for any foods and I sometimes skip eating for up to 48 hours without any impact on my energy or concentration.

Looking back, I have no idea how I was eating 3 times a day. I think I mostly ate to distract me from the day to day stress so maybe this chyna virus is what has allowed me to achieve this.

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I did a bit of intermitent fasting by eating only one normal meal a day and a keto diet for 6 month to loose weight; lost 25kg sitting on my ass watching youtube and playing games (I was unemployed at the time). When I would tell my friend about it, they would just say that they would faint if they don't eat three times a day; to which I would respond that there is something wrong with their diet.

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I’m doing the one meal a day (OMAD) with a longer fast thrown in once or twice a week. I’m juicing a variety of vegetables and holding it down to one fruit. Look up autophagy. I’ve dropped 30 lbs over a month and feel fantastic. Low carbs seem to be responsible for the weight loss no doubt but not going near processed foods with seed oils has left me rejuvenated. I’m sleeping better, my energy level is sky high and I feel more mentally alert.

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I've been on a straight meat carnivore diet for 2 years. It cured my asthma. Run 30km week now on zero carbs

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Wow. Amazing. I keep on reathing about similar experiences.

// EDIT: What do you eat in a typical week?

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I went on it to see if it helped my terrible depression and anxiety (it did heaps). Was not expecting to have my asthma completely go away. No more daily corticosteroids!

I eat everything animal based. Bacon 3 eggs and ground beef or steak for breakfast. Another steak for dinner, maybe some lamb. Always fatty cuts

It's a pretty repetitious diet but I never get bored. I'm slim and feel great

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Very interesting, thank you for sharing. I posted a video on fasting and I did the 16:8 method with good results.

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For anyone interested, I have been trying to figure out full fasting (no eating for many days at a time) and intermittent fasting for about two years now.

While I have figured out the procedure for getting into a full fast I did discover that it was difficult to keep even intermittent fasting going for a long time. For those that are not aware, intermittent fasting is just eating one meal every 24 hours.

Here is what I discovered was super important:

  • Most important: I had to learn the basics of cooking. The body craves all kinds of things at all kinds of times of day. If you don't know how to cook you cannot satisfy your bodies need for the kinds of variety it will be looking for an you will eventually end up snacking or eating restaurant food.

  • Second most important thing: De-stress. I never thought this was an issue, but going to work with and/or for people that you hate has a hell of an impact on my eating habits. The chyna virus kind of opened my eyes to how much I was eating just to distract my self even though I just thought it was normal to eat 3 times a day.

  • Third most important thing: Downregulate your hormone levels. Did you know there is a hormone called ghrelin that controls our apetite? If you didn't know this, you probably thought you were hungry because your stomach was empty right? Nope. Hunger is controlled by ghrelin. How much fat you store is controled by the insulin hormone. You would not believe how many things in our body are regulated by hormone levels. The inverse is true too ... you wouldn't believe how many inputs from the environment (stress, food input, etc) affect your hormone levels. There are GIANT feedback loops built into how our bodies perform making losing weight really difficult.

It turns out that you cannot control how much and when you eat at all as far as I can tell. The only thing that you can do is interfere with the feedback loops that impact our hormone response and regulation systems.

It also turns out that the biggest impact on our hormone levels are controlled by sugars. I separate sugars and starches into categories because that is how we label food, to our body they are the same thing. Basically, if you cut out all sugars and starches your body will automatically start to downregulate your hormone levels because it is sugars and starches that are the cause of the majour spikes in hormone response levels.

I cannot tell yet if cooking was the most important part of the strategy or the chyna virus de-stressing my work environment that was ultimately what has allowed me to eat once a day to be honest. Right now, I feel it was learning to cook because my cravings went away once I learned how to cook because I no longer crave anything and eating once a day is the new normal.

But right now, eating once a day is not even intermittent fasting for me. It's normal. Yesterday I had 4 plain smokies in a baguette for dinner around 8pm, I am not hungry now and wont eat until about 7pm. Today I might even skip because I'm not that hungry.

Cutting out vegetable oils doesn't seem to really have affected my hormone downregulation in a noticeable way, I just did that for health reasons as per video above and other similar videos. Of course, to cook you have to use fats and obviously its beef / pork fat and butter. I can't use coconut oil because it makes everything taste like coconut.

But, there is another side effect of eating less and less because the cravings are gone: I am finding I am using less and less fat these days as well. With the exception of Indian and Chinese cooking which is very heavy on fats, I am even using less and less fat for some reason. I don't even crave most of the variety of foods that I used to crave in the past so I guess using less fat is just a sideffect of downregulating my hormone levels.

The human body is a wild mechanism.

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>I can't use coconut oil because it makes everything taste like coconut.

Get the "refined" type, not the "extra virgin" type. It's good to have shelf stable options for fat.

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No starch I had 4 plain smokies in a baguette

Where can I buy grain-free baguettes?

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I used juicing to build up to OMAD. Right now I’m trying to burn fat so I go low on the protein everyday. Trying to become less insulin resistant. Every ten days or so I’ll go for some protein and animal fat. I don’t lose weight but I don’t gain either. Everything I’ve seen points to seed oils being poison and adulterates processed foods.

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I think you are right, I have noticed I crave unhealthy kinds of food less if I eat healthy (less carbs and sugar = less cravings).

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Note that carbohydrates are sugar

Sounds like you’re carnivore like myself

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Yup! If you get rid of sugars and starches you are left with meat and green veg on your plate. Which is pretty much carnivore or close to it.

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So using a tablespoon of olive oil to fry eggs is bad?

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actual olive oil is mostly monounsaturated fat so should be fine. the bigger problem is that olive oil has an orgy of kikes that love to cut it with garbage oils, i dont even trust the "100% pure" olive oil stamps because unlike the mediterranean theres no laws that demand purity in most of the world.

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Watch the video, she explains that olive oil isn't as unstable and so fine I guess.

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I use avacado oil. High flash point, neutral flavor, and its not a seed oil, its actually from the meat.

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Title;

vegetable oils are unhealthy

You;

so using a vegetable oil is bad?

plz

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Olives are a fruit.

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When I get home if I remember I'll source this but olive oils , even 100% are mostly other oils including and especially soy.

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People living in some of the Italian and Greek islands eat lot of olives and live the longest.

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There is also a family in Italy that has a genetic defect that allows them to eat as much olive oil as they want and not affect their health ... whatever that means.

I think the gist here is that while vegetable oils are not healthy, humans have never really consumed oils in huge amounts to begin with.

It's probably not good to eat vast amounts of any kind of food including the good fats. Instead I think there is probably a low optimum intake rather than a volume for volume replacement at current western intake levels that we might want to aim for.

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Nina Teicholz is a New York Times bestselling investigative science journalist

Science knows literally nothing about diet and food

use common sense but dont listen to any of this nonsense

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Can you tell me what your common sense is telling you? I usually eat a bit of everything but I always avoid polysaturated processed oils/fats. You think that's nonsense?

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every 5 years scientists change their mind on whether or not eggs are healthy.

I wasn't aware that vegetable oil wasn't made from vegetables and the fact that they are lying about this in their branding makes me think its unhealthy but

the trick is to stick to eating foods that existed for more than 200 years. If it was "invented" in the 1950's then we haven't evolved to digest it properly.

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So I'm fine with my animal fats as well as the olive and coconut oils I sparingly use sometimes.

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She's right that plant oils are not healthy, but shes wrong about everything else, meat, dairy and butter are not healthy, she's using studies funded by dairy and meat industries. Shes a quack.

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Meat is not healthy? Can you develop that or recommend a documentary? What about B12, do I have to eat lots of seaweed (fucking ew)?

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It's pretty widely known that meat, dairy and eggs contribute to our biggest diseases like cancer, diabetes, atherosclerosis, stroke etc.

More plants and is the best way to keep healthy, the longest living societies eat the most plants, the 7 day adventists, the okinawans (before western intervention)

B12 supplements are actually given to livestock animals so you're basically taking supplements, just in a less direct way lol.

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So, you're a vegan or pescatarian?

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Eskimos lived on a traditionally 100% animal diet. Most likely our ancestors did too for 6 months of the year. When Weston Price looked at the Eskimos they had basically no heart disease.

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The okinawans and whatever of these groups pointed towards all eat meat in proper proportions. That is the key. If you study holistic medicine like TCM, you will come to understand that red meat has the properties of: blood building, heating, fatty and stagnating. This means it is very nourishing, but must be taken in small amounts and balanced with cooling foods like vegetables. This prevents any stagnation diseases like cancer and diabetes, or heat diseases like inflammation and high blood pressure.

Chicken is neutral, fish is neutral, with some cooling and few heating. This is why they are seen as "better" choices.

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I do huge batches of dripping, put it I'm the deep freezer. Use it everyday

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Be careful with lard because there are cheap types of lard that are still bad for you because they are hydrogenated. You want to get the non-hydrogenated kind.

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Ohhhh ... I never thought of that. Huh. Okay going to review that, thanks for the heads up.

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Thank you for the warning, but I buy directly from a local, trustworthy farmer.

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You should be okay then. Not all lard is created equal.

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The wisdom of man is forever changing.

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I agree. Get the grass fed or European style butters, they have less water in it. If you're making popcorn and pour regular melted butter on, the popcorn shrivels up some like it is wet with too much water.

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Get some clarified butter or ghee (pajeet clarified butter) and you won't have any water to turn your popcorn soggy. It's even better than European style butter but it costs more.

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Or make your own. I am going to try making my own cheeze nest.

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I found an easier way to make clarified butter than the usual method. If you melt some butter in a small microwave safe container then put it in the fridge till the butter fat solidifies, you can then drain off the water easily by poking a hole in the crust that forms. The natural separation of the fat from the water makes this easier than trying to drain off the water while everything is liquid or changing the flavor of the butter by heating it too much. The milk solids are retained when using this method so technically it's not fully clarified, but it work great for popcorn.

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I have been frying everything in lard for quite a few years now. Other than it being healthier and the food tasting better, it's also a hell of a lot easier to clean and change lard out of a fryer than oil.

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