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[–] • 7 pts

It's like the Nephilim- if anyone tampers with Gods creation ...God destroys everything...He said he'd never use a flood again...so what's coming, fire?

[–] [deleted] • 5 pts

No, I think it’s pretty obvious what’s coming is a giant whimper. Even the people who worship God are just allowing this to happen, their churches are closed, their only solution is to try to support “leaders“ who continuously let them down and have presided over the most egregious infringement of our natural rights in modern history and pointed fingers at other people and said nothing could be done because of states rights.

I mean literally their attempt to fight back is to reinstall the person who watched it happen. That’s how our republic dies, with just a whimper. No fire. Just quiet shrugging. Excuse making. That’s how.

[–] • 2 pts

No I do see exactly where you're coming from man....no matter what happen (or doesnt happen) no matter what Q and Trunk promise - and then dont deliver, people keep putting their faith in them....it's insane.

[–] • 0 pt

Welcome to the basis of religious thinking.

Why would evolution choose such ridiculous patterns? It's not a mistake. People with irrational conviction fight harder. People who imagine God is on their side win wars. Unfortunately they seem to be missing the key aspect that causes this kind of thinking to be beneficial: active violence.

[–] • 1 pt

Fire, meteors, earthquakes, supernova, matter itself coming unglued.....all on the table.

[–] • 0 pt

I've got five bucks on human experience becoming a permanent acid trip.

[–] • 0 pt

The Nephilim giants from L.Ron Hubbards failed sci-fi novels/mormonism?

Haha, I hope you don't believe in that Mormon nonsense.

[–] • 0 pt

No the ones from Genesis. And the Book of Enoch. Do the mormons talk about it too? The scientologist guy used them too? Haha

[–] • 0 pt

...niggers. God is sending niggers this time.

[–] [deleted] • 4 pts

and some company has the rights to the modified DNA. That means they own you!

[–] • 1 pt

It's not DNA.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Some people want to believe that the mRNA itself doesn't break down after the fractional protein it's programmed to create, is created by cells.

[–] • 3 pts

I'm seeing all kinds of crazy, incorrect crap about this vaccine. One guy on the front page of Poal is raving that it's an "organism". Like I told him, there's plenty of reasons to avoid this vaccine, but making up random false shit isn't helping.

Edit: Oh lol, it's the OP that's raving.

[–] • 4 pts

One of the problems with having a career (and degree) in medicine is having to listen to all the wild rumors and misinformation that yall toss around.

1) "A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a portion of the pathogen's structure that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection." That's exactly what it is. A vaccine.

2) There is no "organism" being injected. There is nothing alive in the vaccine. It is genetically-modified though, in that it is custom RNA.

3) The vaccine does not alter your DNA. It is incapable of doing that.

If you have any questions about these points, I'll be happy to expand on them.

There are plenty of reasons to avoid this rushed, poorly-understood, brand new vaccine, but none of what you said in the title of this post is true.

[–] • 3 pts

Dear medical professional,

  • How many mRNA vaccines are approved for use in the US?
  • How does the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein?”
  • How is the mRNA vaccine different from the vaccine you describe in point 1?
  • Why do you tell something that is clearly at odds with what the CDC states on its website?

New Approach to Vaccines mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. To trigger an immune response,** many vaccines put a weakened or inactivated germ into our bodies. Not mRNA vaccines. **Instead, they teach our cells how to make a protein—or even just a piece of a protein—that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. That immune response, which produces antibodies, is what protects us from getting infected if the real virus enters our bodies.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Few people mention antibody-dependent enhancement that was seen in previous mRNA "vaccines".....

[–] • 0 pt

I wasn't going to talk about that... but since you brought it up, it's like getting people hooked on .... anything. They can't live without it.

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

>How does the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells

mRNA is used as blueprint by the protein factories of the cells.

> How is the mRNA vaccine different

The portion of the pathogen's structure that stimulates antibody production is produced by the cells after they got the blueprints.

[–] • 1 pt

So you agree that this if the first mRNA vaccine approved for human use in the US. Using it on animals doesn't count as "approved."

"transcribed into protein" - where? What does that mean?

You state this: A preparation of a weakened or killed pathogen, such as a bacterium or virus, or of a **portion of the pathogen's structure that upon administration to an individual stimulates antibody **production or cellular immunity against the pathogen but is incapable of causing severe infection."

But that's not really what this does. This changes your cells. It makes them behave in ways that they would not normally behave. It's not just a foreign material that stimulates antibody production. That statement implies it utilizes a natural physical response, but that's not what this shot does.

[–] • 0 pt

I never said it wasn't. In fact elsewhere in these comments I listed that as a great reason to avoid this vaccine.

Do you know what mRNA is and what it does? I'm trying to figure out how far back through high school biology I need to go to explain this. You know your body is composed of cells, yes?

I mean, if your definition of "changing your cells" is putting something from outside into them, then you "change your cells" every time you eat food. Or draw breath. Your cells create protein from mRNA all the time, right now in fact.

[–] • 0 pt

  • Several for animals, none for humans - until now.

  • mRNA is transcribed into protein by the ribosomes, structures found on the rough endoplasmic reticulum.

  • It's not. Killed, modified-live, and mRNA vaccines all stimulate an immune response. That's the only criteria to be a vaccine.

  • I don't know what you think is "at odds" there.

[–] • 2 pts

The main reason being that it claims to target a virus which no one has adequately proven the existence of, which the “tests” don’t even test for, and which no one has in isolation.

[–] • 0 pt

We also know that this virus is different from all the others we know by the gene expression it causes: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=gene+expression+covid

PCR tests are not perfect because to create one, you have to find a short but unique RNA sequence that can be found in all variants of the virus too. There are many different PCR tests, so attacking all of them by finding a weak one is not really honest. Testing for antibodies works better but is more expensive. Isolating the virus and extracting the RNA is even more expensive, but it was done 200,000 times already.

The databases with the virus samples can be used to make a genealogical tree: https://nextstrain.org/ncov/global?c=recency&l=unrooted

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

mRNA vaccine doesn't fit the definition you supplied for #1.

#2 Agreed, if you believe what they say about the injection.

#3 While I agree for the most part, are you 100% certwin that the piece of RNA can't make it into the nucleus, for example if it's injected into a cell that's undergoing a split.

[–] • 0 pt

You need a metric ton of different enzymes to transport genetic material into the nucleus and to incorporate it into the DNA. This is too complicated for a simple mRNA sequence, but some viruses can do the trick. The AstraZeneca vaccine uses viruses to produce RNA in the nucleus, so it has walked half of the way. Scientists use viruses to cure hereditary diseases. This is were the danger comes from, because some scientists will not stop there. First they will try to keep the body young forever. Then they will create super soldiers. Then they will use the virus to sterilize a selected group of people. Then they will use viruses that replicate in humans, so they don't need the injections. Better keep an eye on this development and don't cry wolf too early.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I see. I've heard of horizontal gene transfer so I know it's possible, if unlikely. For example there could be another virus in the cell that will somehow insert that piece of mRNA into the DNA.

[–] • 0 pt

#1

or of a portion of the pathogen's structure

That's what it creates.

#2 Thousands of people would all have to be lying. If you're that distrustful, there are other things you should be worrying about before you worry about this.

#3 So what if it does? It won't be replicated. It'll stay with the original cell until it dies. It also won't have any effect in the nucleus, protein synthesis takes place in the ribosomes.

[–] • 1 pt

So why is it full of mercury and glyphosphate of all things doc and how do you KNOW that what you receive is what you are told above? You guys are losing respect at break-neck speed do you know that? Do you know what happens when that continues?

[–] • 0 pt

Bro, listen. You gotta stop parroting the mercury line. It makes you look and sound like a retard. Sodium explodes when it touches water, and chlorine is a deadly poison gas, but when you combine them you get a new molecule that you put on your french fries. That's how chemistry works.

[–] • 1 pt

Hey.. 8m encouraging people to get this shit. 8 hope every masked up faggot gets it twice. That is how confident I am that it is nasty shit.

[–] • 1 pt

What are your top three reasons to avoid the rushed experimental vaccine?

[–] • 0 pt

Well you named two of them, it's rushed and it's never been approved for human use before. The third is that the pharma companies have legal immunity from lawsuits for any bad side effects. A bonus fourth reason is, I don't want patented Pfizer™ genetic code in me.

[–] • 0 pt

A fever that lasts less than a week seems a better deal than some "vaccine" that gets injected and does God knows what to my RNA, I'll take the covid. Already done with this farce.

[–] • 0 pt

It doesn't do anything to your RNA, that's not how it works. If you have the instruction manual for how to build a car, and I add a new page for how to put a rear spoiler on it, the instructions don't become how to build an airplane. The instruction manual is your DNA, the new page is Pfizer's RNA.

The danger from this vaccine comes from how the body will react to the new protein produced by the new RNA. They want to create an immune response to the new protein, but there is the possibility that the response gets out of control, resulting in dangerous inflammation all over your body, worst case scenario in your brain.

This vaccine simply has not been tested long enough or widely enough to prove to me that the risk of a dangerous immune response is negligible.

[–] • 4 pts

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Did you get the badge of shame when you were vaccinated?

[–] • 3 pts

i need source, faggot

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/en

here's your sauce, nigger.

If you'd done your homework, you wouldn't ask that question.

[–] • 0 pt

"do your homework"

lmao @ you, your parents must think you're a disappointment.

i bet you cited wikipedia back when you were in school

[–] • -1 pt

FYI, op is linking a website made by a creationist who founded a church and now thinks he's a virologist. Not exactly the person I would take my medical information from.

[–] • 3 pts (edited )

Well mRNA in itself probably is safe, here are the problems:

  1. We can't trust the authorities or institutional "scientists" anymore. Vaccine could be literally anything or just expensive water.
  2. Even if it is mRNA which could probably be safe, we don't know what the vaccine does. Could be made to make the immune system attack the brain or fertility for all we know.
[–] • 1 pt

I for one hope, that all conspiracy theories are true, and the vaccine kills and/or renders anyone infertile who takes it. Think about it, cops, important state employees, and NPCs take it. If that stuff indeed is engineered poison that kills whoever takes it after a few years, most problems this world has would finally be allowed to solve themselves.

[–] • 1 pt

what a perfect excuse to give up on shekels to avoid vaccine and enjoy the decline

[–] • 0 pt

Evil is inherently self-destructive.

[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

If they are telling the truth about the Pfizer and Moderna vaccinations' mechanism of action, then it does not alter DNA.

The vaccinations, according to them, are pieces of mRNA which when enter the host cell, cause your own cells molecular machinery to produce proteins. This all occurs in the cytoplasm, away from your cell's own DNA.

It can still be dangerous, however. I'm not saying its not dangerous. But, theoretically, it should not affect the structure of your own DNA.

[–] • 2 pts

And there we were, two years ago, thinking if there's an actual zombie apocalypse, it'll be Monsanto's fault.

[–] • 2 pts

Yep. Another great example of international medical terrorists lingo - cover something terrible with something innocent, even desirable, and that gentle twist of semantics drives herds of sheep happy and willing to get injected asap... cause they are being cared for, kept safe, ya know??

[–] • 2 pts

Pretty much. In my country vaccination is voluntary at the moment, but what can I do when it inevitably becomes mandatory?

[–] • 4 pts

If any private company or govt agency comes to my house to administer a mandatory vaccine I'm getting in a shootout. That's a promise. Fuck that.

[–] • 1 pt

They're much more likely to starve you out by denying you access to necessities and travel. Who do you shoot when that happens?

[–] • 0 pt

The nearest politician and migrants and leave a manifesto no one will read ala Tarrant style

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I hear you. Maybe by then avenues will come about how to avoid it. I hope....

[–] • 1 pt (edited )

The mRNA vaccine injects mRNA that builds the spike protein that the virus uses to attach to the ACE-2 receptor. Your body is supposed to treat this protein that naturally binds with your ACE-2 receptors as a foreign invader, ie trigger an immune response, aka allergic reaction. This is because the dimwits that are pushing this assume that having anti-bodies = immunity. In other words their metrics are retard helmet small bus stupid. The immune system is MUCH MUCH MUCH more than mere antibodies, and antibodies do not guarantee immunity.

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