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Going along the idea that God just knows why do we go to mass or why is that a requirement for so many religions? It seems to me it's unnecessary because one should always love and be in communication with God all the time. Being a Catholic they say you go because you're receiving the Eucharist and that's the way of showing your love for God and thanking God for giving us Jesus.

I always wonder as well why did Jesus have to die to forgive our sins? I don't understand why that had to happen. Was it God's way of showing us that God cared so much for us that Jesus was a reverse sacrifice (of sorts). You sacrifice for me now I will sacrifice for you.

Going along the idea that God just knows why do we go to mass or why is that a requirement for so many religions? It seems to me it's unnecessary because one should always love and be in communication with God all the time. Being a Catholic they say you go because you're receiving the Eucharist and that's the way of showing your love for God and thanking God for giving us Jesus. I always wonder as well why did Jesus have to die to forgive our sins? I don't understand why that had to happen. Was it God's way of showing us that God cared so much for us that Jesus was a reverse sacrifice (of sorts). You sacrifice for me now I will sacrifice for you.

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This makes sense. That we are the body of Christ when we accept him into our hearts and our lives.

I also agree that the Catholic church is more of a business than an actual avenue to build a relationship with Jesus, God and the holy Spirit. My brother broke away and he became an Episcopalian. My father still at absolute devout Catholic and that'll be the way for him until he's dead. Me, I haven't been to church in forever, although I did go after my mother just died to be there for my dad and I was literally embarrassed to listen to how far they've fallen.

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He actually says it, "Where two or three are gathered together, there I am also" (Matt 18:19-20). I mean, He's with you when you're alone as well. I'm not trying to say it takes a group of people to convene to ensure God is with us.

"Church" isn't a place or a thing you go and do once a week, it's the community of Believers who can come together, worship, learn and study the Word.

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One has to wonder if Jesus says two or three and you're with me is that he wants us to not travel the world alone to always have companionship, someone to trust and someone to love. And in that trust and love, you'll find him.

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Well, I'm pretty sure verse 19 is calling back to verse 16 relating to judicial procedure. It was a protocol in how to deal with problems.

I understand what your saying, though. For our spiritual health we need to be around and in fellowship with other Believers. We're also to always "pray without ceasing". Our relationship with Him is constant, or should be. I had always wanted to save a piece of my life for myself. I'd pray and read the Bible but I still had this small little part of me I didn't want to give up to Him. It wasn't until I DID give it up and start living it continuously that He started making changes in my life. It was...surprising because I could actually see, feel and understand that something had changed, within me. I know since I'm saved God is always with me. I'm never alone, in spirit.

So if God does live within you, you're never alone. But the point of the verse isn't to say or show that, it's to provide a procedure for verse 16 and you can probably extrapolate that it demonstrates that it only takes a gathering of 2 people, joined in His name, to worship and have church.