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Yes, we have all heard about Superman and the endless streams of historical drams. Even the slight darkening in the Lord of the Rings series that’s planned. But damn, looks like Amazon is really going hard on the Wheel of Time. https://www.therpf.com/forums/attachments/wot-cast-jpg.1351311/

Yes, we have all heard about Superman and the endless streams of historical drams. Even the slight darkening in the Lord of the Rings series that’s planned. But damn, looks like Amazon is really going hard on the Wheel of Time. https://www.therpf.com/forums/attachments/wot-cast-jpg.1351311/

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[–] • 2 pts (edited )

I was excited but not much anymore that I've looked up the cast. Blackwashing for sure.

So sad I've always thought this would have been a great series.

Anyone wanna bet the trollocs are gonna be pretty much all white? Forsaken bet they will all be white. Min or Aviendha will be a minority for sure even though they aren't announced yet. My guess is Min will be asian and Aviendha will be perisan/middle eastern. They'll keep Elaine white to throw us a bone

Edit holy fuck I was right Min is asian!

[–] • 0 pt

if the WoT didnt have lots of niggers and fat women, it wouldn't be true to the books. As you read the series, so many peoples are described as really dark, I mean i pictured the darkest darky i could think of for some of them as i read the stories, and a ton of the women are described as plump....

I'm talking this MF black.... https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000417251952/d937b87a30aedec1bb955dd8e34f6298.jpeg

[–] • 2 pts

Yeah, but those are side characters, not Egwene and motherfucking Nynaeve. The Two Rivers is the definition of a white peasant village, and to change them to a mulatto and a low-caste street-shitter is the definition of blackwashing.

[–] • 0 pt

Lets start off proper. I am not arguing for the blackening of TV.

I can agree on the Egwene and Nynaeve lines. But I nearly always picture the coplands and congars as the niggers in the village.

Frankly I am more upset with the choice for Perrin. Loial i couldn't care less if they stick in a nigger as long as it speaks well.

The thing about the "diverse" society of RJ's WoT, is that all the characters all act human to a degree, regardless of race. The Tairen's for instance, are clearly described as the darkest niggers, but they sure do act ok, and speak normally in the writings. Sure they play some underhanded games in the palace, but so do the clearly short white Cairhienin, and obviously asian Altarans

[–] • 0 pt

Coplands and Congars, sure. Although I always saw them as the low-IQ white trash in the village, if they made them niggers I wouldn't mind (although they haven't, they cast a stereotypical Karen for Daise).

Loial is probably going to be covered heavily in makeup, and you'd be hard-pressed to find a white guy with the right build and vocal chords to play him (and according to the WoT wiki, "Due to their size and inhuman facial features, the uneducated often mistake them for Trollocs" which is both hilarious and accurate).

And for different regions, it makes sense if they're described as non-white in the books. I'm all for authenticity and

But for the Two Rivers main cast, it's a travesty. I didn't even notice Perrin, but that's bullshit. And Egwene's father is a fucking abbo.

Some of the castings are spot on though. Cenn Buie is perfect, as is Tam. Liandrin looks like she behaves exactly the same as in the books. Lan, Thom and Moraine look good, but it depends on their makeup and how they play the roles. And Padan Fain could be amazing.

I might end up torrenting the first episode to see if it's worth watching, but I don't have high hopes.

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To be fair, I always took it in context. To a British analog culture, which they seem to start out in based on their celebration of Beltain, a Mediterranean analog culture would be dark. I suppose if I read the book new for the first time now I'd probably picture the same. It is like there is a Overton window for inserting race into uncertain descriptions of race. For instance a character described as dark in a book I read as a kid, I'm talking if that's the only clue given to the character and the setting is some kind of sci-fi or fantasy world, I'd picture as dark haired and maybe olive skin tone or very tan. Nowadays I will probably think more black if I just read that. Over-saturation of darker people in media, even if they aren't taking white roles, is shifting perceptions.