I miss VOAT too and the old timer Goats that are no longer with us. In addition to politics and many discussions on dirty cops FBI/CIA/DOJ, that conspired to coverup the overwhelming evidence that proves Obummer was NATURALIZED and never a NATURAL-BORN citizen, how he went to Columbia as a foreign exchange student using his Indonesian passport which made him ineligible to ever be President, so we got a fraud-in-chief like we have now but for different reasons like massive election fraud. We then learned that the same DS dirty cops of back then, have again conspired for the Democrats against Conseravtive/Republicans. Goats at VOAT also had a great exchange of ideas on Christianity, the Bible, history, engineering, fake man-made climate change/Climategate, philosophy and so many other topics. Nontheless, thanks to AOU for keeping POAL a free speech forum where we can still discuss things honestly.