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[–] 5 pts

ok. You shouldnt blindly trust anyone 100%. That aside he is doing a lot of good for our side, its pretty undeniable. Bowing down and worshipping him is retarded and you are a faggot if you do but he has made many things apparent that wouldnt be apparent otherwise. At the moment we can use his actions to spread the truth, if nothing it is a good reprieve.

Nobody will ever be 100% good or evil, some bad people will make good points and good people will stumble and fuck something up. Thats life. Use him for what he offers but dont bow down.

[–] 2 pts

Emperor Palpatine was viewed as a "good guy" too. And as we know he turned out to be really unkind and nasty. A real poopy-face..

[–] 3 pts

Ok but how are we supposed to use this situation. Musk is saying things we agree with to people we disagree with, you walk into the room and you start trashing musk for this or that. What is the effect?

Look at what he says and judge each statement in a vacuum, agree when he is right and disagree when he is wrong, that is a mature response. An immature response is screaming that everything he says is right or wrong because he previously said something you agree/disagree with.

This just reminds me of the j6 protest, as soon as the Communists said they were bad the entire right wing movement threw them under the bus to avoid being called names by communist faggots. There were some covert shits in there but their actions were a correct response to tyranny yet the spineless right couldn't back them up and defend the narrative. It was pathetic.

The desire to become a hive mind like the left is a problem, we need to be philosophers that can discern truth from lies on each subject and argument

[–] 2 pts

I agree. People can change their opinions and views.. some refuse to change, even with presented factual information that proves them wrong... But logical thinkers will absorb New information and reprocess it, changing views and opinions. None of us... Not a Single One Of Us, were born with the information that we have learned over the years that brings us here, Today! I'm sure many of us have met and associated at one point in our life's with some shady characters, or done things we regret later on in life. Everyday is a learning experience, a chance to start anew, to take life's lessons and move forward to Not repeat our past failures, to build off those lessons to make a better world for us and those around us that find themselves in similar struggles. The Guilt By Association tactic has always bothered me... The DS has indeed used this for a long time to sow discord... and when I see people trying to do good, while simultaneously seeing efforts to discredit Good Work... it screams "kill The Messenger!". I'm certainly not saying to ignore past info we've learned... but if someone seems to have turned a corner and is apparently trying to correct some wrongs, lets give them at least the opportunity to redeem themselves. In Elon Musk's case, someone of his position and stature can have a far reaching effect that should not be taken for granted.

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Right.

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He's making the disinfo coordination known but directing attention so that the real problem is allowed to continue unchecked.