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[–] 5 pts

Don't just, "trust the plan". Go out cbd be active. Get off your ass and do something. Make a difference. Don't just listen to X22 Dave. Do something actionable such as getting involved in election or local government, school boards, county, etc etc

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I suspected this. A lot of very retarded ideas have come out of the QAnon movement. I suspect that it is a psyop from the deep state used to trick suspectable people into following the movement because it is a form of control. Instead of focusing on legitimate things, the Q-folks get tricked into absolutely retarded and asinine ideas.

Controlled opposition.

[–] 6 pts

Uh, retarded ideas were injected into the Q movement. Smart people discern and rebuke said retardation. Saying that, I rebuke you.

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Uh, retarded ideas were injected into the Q movement. Smart people discern and rebuke said retardation.

That's simply not true at all. QAnon folks still believe retarded things and still support known pedos like Donald J. Trump. Massively hypocritical and quite shameful. Divorce yourself from any movements and seek truth, only. QAnon stuff became a cultish religion that allowed far too many mistakes to occur which is why it is likely to be controlled opposition rather than a self-correcting group of intellectuals with honesty and facts as their guiding principles.

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So the guy who literally wrote the book on Irregular Warfare is using it and saying others are using it.

A movement was started to hip 'suspectable people' to it so they can oppose and destroy it. ?

Creating an opposition to it's own self that didn't exist before? To put the Optic on the hand to spoil the 'trick'?

Even mental gymnastics can't make that make sense.

Q and anons are separate entities.

At least 7 members of Q, 3 non-military.

Will they melt back into the shadows as the optic grows, or will it ever or should it ever go public?

There are parallel plotlines here. Irregular warfare indeed.

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Creating an opposition to it's own self that didn't exist before?

This is the single biggest mistake you made in your set of dishonest questions. These people and their hairbrained ideas existed long before the QAnon bullshit started. It's the same group of people being tricked into a particular branding. You're getting hung up on the "QAnon" aspect of it instead of the same subset of tinfoil hat wearing, hairbrained, retarded conspiracy theory believing people. The feds recognized this group as a danger to their interests and came up with a controlled opposition psyops strategy to reduce the risk of these people. Bringing them under a cult-like leader (Q) to focus them on just the seemingly amazing and awesome stuff tickles the religious and spiritual parts of their brains. This would allow them to make mistakes and these fanatics would make excuses for their movement because it's a religion, now, instead of a fact-based movement (inside their heads, unbeknownst to them).

If you were honest about your questions, you'd asked:

"So the government is pulling the strings in the background for some of the crazier types who are often mentally ill, using psyops to ensure that this particular brand of opposition is controlled and not becoming violent or destructive or at least minimizing the ?" Then answer is yes. Obviously yes.

Your dishonest set of questioning is noted and your feelings being hurt because you followed a movement that was run by Glowies is also noted.

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Oh.................gee......thanks genius for hipping me to your idea that this place is a limited hangout. Is that why you hang out here? Doesn't that seem stupid? In fact, I know it is, that's why I nuked my former account, but decided I couldn't let half-wits such as yourself try to run the show just as it was about to cave in on everybody's worldview .............though mine will remain exactly the same.

The OPTIC is the thing that made ALL this necessary, and you're left taking 'notes' and trying to put people into boxes where they don't belong. Like you not belonging in a limited hangout you pretend to 'reveal'.

btw: The questions were satirical 'begging the question', asking to show there is no 'logical' answer, not asking because I don't know.

you misunderstand

Try harder

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i will Interject debate here. What is the Q.gov motivation ? Trust the plan, no violence ? Would this be to keep 200 million guns pointed at their ass, the biggest fear ? Two sides to this coin. Previous statement is their biggest fear being hung by an angry mob. However, Communism was overthrown on multtple occasions with no violence at all. Just people going outside their houses together in solidarity. I stop at that for sake of discussion. . .

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As Q posted back channels are very effective, effective at what? To get people to think for themselves.

The media must be so freaked out by what they see. Its such a double sided coin. They paint the violence narrative, because its all they have. When you study their own history, they tell you what they are going to do in advance, papers, books, essays, meeting talking points. Extremely detaled. So thats 100 years ago. Why would a Q show up to out ALL their members and ultra details live time as it happens. That makes no sense. The collective is so sharp and discerning its has been very interesting to watch. They would be best served ignoring it. Not encourage a 200 million person army to educate themselves peacefully.

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"...but I can see our government, you know, somewhere, at some level, putting something like this together, but bifurcating it from the government and turning it over to another body.”

I'd say this is accurate.

If the Q drops were done by what they call government "intelligence" people, then it was amazingly well done.

We know the Clowns In America do these sorts of things. Just look at the flat earth movement as an example. The literature is really well thought out and convincing, on the surface. A lot of researchers admit they were initially intrigued before they thought it all out. If you do a search, you will find slick, well produced (and funded) web sites with professional quality videos promoting this insane idea, and making it seem plausible to the sort of people who went to public school in America. Who has the money and brainpower to conduct such an operation?

Another possible operation of this sort is the Secret Space Program (SSP) as promoted by David Wilcock and Corey Goode.

I have watched David for a long time, because of similar spiritual interests and also interest in the UFO phenomena. David would relate some amazing stories given to him by various unnamed "insiders." I was always absolutely convinced of David's sincerity, but I often wondered if he was being misled by these insiders he was in contact with.

Then David introduced Cory Goode, and his amazing tales of participating in an incredibly advanced secret government space program. I was subscribed to Gaia TV at the time, and I watched just about every episode of Corey's ongoing revelations of this incredible story. Corey seemed sincere. I had a number of people sit down and watch the first two or so episodes of Corey's revelations, and every one of them said the same thing. They all said it seemed obvious that Corey sincerely believed what he was saying. But is it real? Corey related being in some kind of government training program starting when he was still a child. This was apparently the training for his future participation in the SSP. Or was it? It could also be that he was in a program that hypnotized and brainwashed him in to BELIEVING he was in a SSP, so that he would be able to convincingly tell an amazing scifi story as if it was real.

The thing is, this is a really well written story that he tells. If one person was able to write fiction like this, he would be a successful scifi author, and could have spawned probably eight or ten blockbuster scifi movies by now. The story is really really good if you like scifi. And the story is just plausible enough to have many people believing it. And honestly, I don't think Corey is smart enough to be the author.

My whole point is that if the Corey Goode SSP story is fiction, it seems to be put together by a team of well financed talent, not just one person. Like something done by an agency with a history of creating intricate false narratives. I don't know what to believe any more, and I'm willing to consider the idea that the whole Q operation is fake. But that opens up another whole big discussion.

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Wilcox and Goode are nothing but charlatans

Thank you for your well researched and documented response. So many examples!

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Mk Ultra was a program primarily aimed at mind control. It involved many different methods that were all extensively thought out and studied by psychologists. Much of it has been kept secret, but of what we do know, they tried physical torture of children, drugging people against their knowledge with LSD and other unknown drugs (leading to at least one suicide), and developing the psychological torture techniques on display at Abu Ghraib. Several times they tried to train assassins such as to kill Yasser Arafat, and I remember hearing somewhere that Sirhan Sirhan had connections to MK Ultra too. The point of the torture is not to get some information, it's to psychologically break and mold someone to their liking, like sleep depriving Bradley Manning until he agrees with them that he's actually Chelsea. It, like hypnosis, doesn't work on everyone, but it works on enough people that it can't be discounted.

If the government had a secret space program, they'd be crowing to the skies about their advanced technologies. They'd be planting flags on Mars and talking about their brilliant jewish scientists that made it all possible. They'd have every reason to reveal it or parts of it, just as they have every reason to want people to think they have it now.

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In one sense this looks like one deep stater basically alleging that Q is a product of a different deep stater.

Reminds me of the where Cortez tells Escobedo not to believe Ryan because he's in the intelligence business, then Escobedo points out that Cortez himself is in the intelligence business.