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What makes you think I have given up??
Your comment "Sure, keep clinging to that life raft and see where it gets you." came across that way...
No one said play Catch up... I stated START. they may not be able to catch up to what others have stockpiled.

but they will have something...... and yes I do agree that window IS closing fast. get what you can of needed items while you still can