Warning, this is going to be a *long* post, analyzing the scenario unfolding here in america, and how I see it going. > I agree with 95% of what you have commented here. I see the right having the potential to skip right-over the peaceful political process sometime before 2024. The fact that you agree with 95% of this post, which is essentially about viewing the government and 'our' party as a hostile occupation, is enough to conclude as much about the direction the american right will go if things don't change. It also highlighted a blindspot for me, because while I was reading it, assuming you're a standard voter, I realized I don't believe in any of what you were talking about. Essentially I don't have faith in the american people to go the distance if peaceful representative politics fails. Because if I did, I wouldn't have a gut reaction to reject what you wrote. For starters, I don't think the movement is organic at all. Q and operation trust demonstrated as much. I think we have some twenty thousand or more agents and contractors for the federal occupation, literally on the news and online being paid *all day* to control discussion even in bumfucked no-where sites and backwater comment sections, because we have an out of control administrative state engaged in full blown propaganda operations against the american people. We have three letter agencies whose entire edifice is turned, like goliath, to entrapping and destroying or suberting *entire political movements* in the u.s. essentially outright suppressing and openly destroying our right to protest (assaults in the street), affiliation (bad jacketing), representation (misrepresentations in the media, blaring 24/7, slandering and defaming entire organizations, parties, or movements, to the point of mass violent assaults against people in public by the regime's leftwing base). And countless other defenestrations, defamation, slanders, subversion, and infiltration, even and **especially** if anyone gets into office or attempts to so much as the *local* or congressional level (see local races and attacks like they did against matt gaetz for details). Our government is completely lawlessly, engaged in open terrorism, and no one is doing anything about it. The party thats supposed to is engaged in meme wars and gotcha hottakes on twitter and calling that 'winning', while our own officials engage in running out the clock on behest of the regime and the DNC. This is *not* delivering on what people are demanding or expect. At best you see the endorsement of it as a sad sort of "at least that was a sick burn." The verbal equivalent of people talking shit in the street. How often does that escalate in america today? A lot. The psychological processes are the same. I don't see this leading anywhere except the otherside, and the 2 million bureaucrats, NGOs, activists, and system supporters, becoming more and more out of control, lawless, and violent, without either the RNC doing something about it, or the american people resorting to discarding peace or politics in order to put a hard stop to it. People don't put up with obvious abuse forever. I give it 2 years tops. I'm not *naturally* a peaceful person. I *choose* pacifism because I think, for the most part, it is the most effective method to change things, and get grievances heard. But its *this* choice, and being a fighter by nature (and god have I done a lot of fighting in my life), that gives me the perspective and distance to predict some things. In the same way I predicted a full three months before the riots, that if as I said, bernie lost, a segment of the left would resort to non-peaceful means. The same way, when everyone said it wouldn't happen, that russia *would* choose to defy the u.s. and go to war in ukraine, even to the point of everything thats been done to it. I had people tell me, even people who were experts, that it wouldn't happen. That it couldn't happen. That I was stupid for even believing it was possible. And as surely as I choose peace, I can tell you, regretablly I don't think the right will. They will likely militarize in a real way, and go into an actual war, if the current scenario and outlook doesn't change. The analysis of this comes from a simple take away of this problem: 1. the american right wants some things to change, or stop. Namely uneven enforcement of the law, and political suppression. And they want the people who have engaged in the worst of it to face consequences. Not because the right is politically vengeful, but because many of them see it as the *surest* indicator about whether things will change for the better, or be allowed to continue. 2. the RNC is blocking this. The RNC's various claims they "can't", aren't working, and are going to be less and less effective with time. Not having a majority, being 'blocked', or 'a few turned and supported the democrats at the last minute!' aren't going to work anymore, when the party makes no obvious, or effective attempts, to stop this sort of behavior. When they have a majority, they fail to do anything with it or meaningfully roll back the worst of the regime. They fail to punish or rollback the atrocities and overreaches of the left and its base. The right has moved on from wanting mere change, and like the left, has now moved on to wanting revenge, where before it didn't. They RNC fails to prosecute or remove opposition officials when they joke about nuking american cities. They fail to lock up officials sleeping openly with spies. They fail to go after their own who give succor to officials on the otherside and their lawlessness. They don't remove people on their side who refuse to toe the party line, or continually take sies against their own base. They speak of nothing but being "the party of peace" while the wounds and outrages of the last two years open lawlessness and riots and leftwing insurrection itself, turn into a bitter gangrene. All made worse by their very accusing and persecution of *our side* for the very things they flagrantly engaged in, violence, rioting, mass murder (waukesha), releasing murderers, cartels responsible for the fentanyl genocide going on in american streets, criminal gangs, mass importation of foreigners. And what the right sees for all the *talk talk talk* from the RNC, its grandstanding, even mouthpieces like tucker, is things getting worse, and not much of *anything* being fdone but minor political stunts like in texas. It's not enough. It's not enough. 3. People will eventually get fed up with this. They will sooner voter for outsiders (Trump wasn't the piece de resistance, he was only the crack in the dam). 4. The RNC will respond by moving left to "moderation against the vocal minority" (middle class itself) in favor of the larger voting base of illegals, and big tent methods of the left. This very tendency was highlighted when they claimed to support the right to choose whether to get vaccinated but almost *universally* prefaced it with "but I believe in the vaccines." This tendency was demonstrated, even by the likes of tucker carlson, and so many other 'hardliners' calling J6 an insurrection when it pa patently wasn't. This betrayal was both *hugely* outraging and incredibly alienating to a vast swath of their base. 5. The base will in turn respond by forming new wings of the RNC. 6. The RNC, now in the habit of defending itself from perceived threats, will circle the wagons to shut out these wings, as is already happening. 7. Political change now frustrated, the base will not be satisfied to see, for a second, a third, or a fourth time, that electing people to office *doesn't work* because they either get threatened and framed to step down from their political ambitions (matt gaetz), and so running anyone mainstream is out of the question--or the entire party fights against the very representatives sent to DC to support the issues the mainstream RNC constantly grandstands about. 8. You'll see in either this midterm, or the next (along with the presidency) a huge drop off in right-wing voters. This will be confused as demoralization (winning) becuse the administrative states two million unelected lifelong bureaucrats are mostly smug and arrogant, when they're not pandering to the very civility they destroyed, or being condescendingly misunderstanding or willfully ignorant of people's grievances. 9. I assure you when that phenomenon happens, mass drop off of right wing voters, it will be a sign of war coming. The regime's poll-takers won't see it, but the agencies and commissars with the job of monitoring the public sentiment online will see a truly widespread and huge uptick in talk of civil war, random hatecrime reports as some members of the disaffected right (and left) boil over before the rest of society, and spontaneous outbreaks of grass roots organizing (a psychological phenomenon we sometimes see before ethnic conflicts where members of two groups preparing for a fight, see some members nevertheless attempt to desperately deescalate or make last ditch dialogue efforts.) The regime, being mostly blind, will mistake all of this for misinformation, and outside agitation, but won't be able to place the origin of it, choosing instead to scapegoat whatever nation, or elements of the public itself. I foresee this reaction specifically will have terrible and drastic consequences. BECAUSE 10. As the regime freshly locks down, and institutes new political suppression policies, and new demonization campaigns, they will effectively act as 'spoilers'. We see this in analysis again, of ethnic conflicts, such as in the middle east. Its an inversion of the pull-out-leads-to-tension-between-groups-breaking-down-into-civil-war model. Where, a regime under unbalanced tension from one half of the political spectrum, attempts to maintain stability by suppressing measures that otherwise might blow off public steam or lead to reevaluation of their own approaches. Call it the sociopolitical equivalent of tunnel vision. The most visible elements suppressed, end up being the grass roots movements, and the talkers. And at that point, those methods will have transitioned from hopeful change, to tension release methods. The consequence is, those same methods, grassroots, large scale talk of civil war, public demonstrations of political reprisal (sides beating up each others supporters in the street, random hatecrimes), don't go away like they used to. This will perplex regime officials. Instead they'll ramp up even more. Because the suppression tactics will essentially be giving room to those unstable elements that have stopped talking and believe "something must be done", where before there were moderating voices. The model works in phases: 1. 'liquid phase'. A crisis of confidence combine with prior simmering concern about problems going unaddressed, leads to grassroots and political speech motivated out of hope for change. 2. suppression of this leads to the boiling phase. here the most unstable elements, the most dissatisfied, 'step over the line', while waiting for everyone else to get to where they are at. This is a 'mixed-mode' where consensus is *lost* among one side about the effectiveness of political or non-violent methods and it becomes "every man for himself". While the dominant party in authority loses the ability to message about the morality or discourage this direction because it has consolidated out those elements that were seen as legitimate. 3. 'closing ranks' to appease the more vocal elements of the dominant party (who become outraged as the minority parties pushback) leads to the subcritical phase. The point where old political suppression methods paradoxically lead to an *increase* in the activities provoking the dominant parties own base. The base of the dominant party switch to the boiling phase, and the attacks and overreaches by the base, act as a feedback loop to escalation by the minority party's base. 4. elements on either side engage in ever increasing provocations, escalations, and random acts of hostility in an attempt to message to the otherside not to go any further. The dominant party and its base, sees this sudden upstart attitude as a grievous threat to its own "legitimacy to rule" or consensus. The base of the minority party in turn sees them as arrogant, violent, and condescending, over stepping their mandate, and prone to going further unless stopped. Thats the thinking they'll engage in. This is the supercritical phase, and can go on for an in-determinant length of time, the 'boiling over', into open war as the peaceful elements spontaneously join the non-peaceful elements, while either sides attacks on the other, political, economic (cancelling), and even physical in the street, cause the otherside to irreversibly escalate, in size, scope, organization, and damage. However this model does *not* cover phenomenon such as peacemaking, or the utilization of consensus cracking in the peacemaking process (such as was refined in the middle east for example), as the psychological processes under latestage republics is different from tribe-cultural polity systems like the loose-knit affiliations of places like palestine or afghanistan. Think of the white army under bolshevik russia as a better model, and ask yourself, if the bolsheviks offered peace, would the white army have accepted? If not, then you understand how the american right is coming to view its own government, and how they view the behavior of said government. I hope this better explains and covers my political thinking and analysis of the social dynamics of the u.s. and west to date.