What if it's possible to give yourself an auto-immune disorder through multiple different methods? I don't see why the two ideas have to be mutually exclusive, or why one necessarily disproves the other.
Couldn't HIV cause AIDS and poppers cause the same condition without the need of the virus? In my lay understanding, AIDS is simply a condition and not a disease, whereas HIV is the virus thay can result in AIDS, but the exact mechanism doesn't seem particularly well understood (eg. why some people get AIDS from HIV and others don't).
Anyways, I usually agree with your takes Morbo, but you seem to be coming down hard on one side here, when I don't think anything you're saying disproves the idea that poppers could also destroy your immune system.
What if it's possible to give yourself an auto-immune disorder through multiple different methods? I don't see why the two ideas have to be mutually exclusive, or why one necessarily disproves the other.
Because it correlates with people infected with HIV. Additionally, prior to HIV, there were no similar cases of any matching autoimmune disease that just randomly appeared in someone. We'd also be seeing such random autoimmune diseases popping up now more than ever but we are not. It's a simple logical progression that a viral infection causes AIDS when that virus is found in the vast majority of those with such an autoimmune disease.
Would you say that before automobiles were developed that people were randomly getting into automobile accidents by other causes?
No, I appreciate this answer more than your first. I can understand frustration with someone you view as a troll, so maybe that's all it was. I have just found you to be articulate and convincing in the past, and the argument you were making this time didn't seem to be a good one to me.
For the record, from what I've read, I tend to believe HIV is responsible for AIDS, but I don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject.
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