The world is noticing, far more so, how many of the unvaccinated are dying from COVID-19 compared to the vaccinated.
From September 4 through October 1, 2021: • Unvaccinated people were 13 times more likely to become infected with COVID-19 than fully vaccinated people. • Unvaccinated people were 20 times more likely to experience COVID-19-associated death than fully vaccinated people.
https://www.dshs.texas.gov/immunize/covid19/data/Cases-and-Deaths-by-Vaccination-Status-11082021.pdf
Data after data after data (and not the retarded crayon data that keeps getting posted on this site from retarded disinformation authors that are really just Chinese threat actors trying to kill Americans, you fucking tools) tells us that the vaccines work and are very safe. 43 clot cases from 2 of the vaccines (and one of them isn't even approved for the US), and you retards call it the "clot shot."
"It's a DNA changing vaccine!" Not it's not, you fucking morons.
Do you really think if the shit was safe and effective that congress would excuse themselves from the mandate? The companies have zero liability. And also covid has an extremely small mortality rate. It literally kills the same category of people the flu kills every year.
Also, spike proteins are what makes rona deadly and the shot causes your body to make them. It effects the endothelial lining of your vascular system. It contains 7 segments of HIV. It's made to self replicate. You don't want a robust antibody response for a long time because antibodies are only present during infection. You want a Tcell response. Unfortunately the more shots taken the worse it is. The immune system will function at 1/6 th of what it was. It's sad.
OR, you could just be familiar with law to understand why Biden cannot force any executive orders on Congress or their Staff instead of some hairbrained conspiracy theory:
The companies have zero liability.
Wrong. I debunked this ages ago. They do have liability. And the "immunity" from liability has existed since 1988:
42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22, "No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, if the injury or death resulted from side effects that were unavoidable even though the vaccine was properly prepared and was accompanied by proper directions and warnings."
But it doesn't end there. There is a liability fund for these emergency authorization vaccines:
"PREP Act also created the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP), which provides benefits to people who claim that they suffered injuries from vaccines under emergency authorization."
There's also a gross negligence liability that all the manufacturers are still beholden to. If an exec or a researcher communicated in any traceable way that the vaccines did bad thing x, y, or z, and they tried to cover it up, and someone got hurt, they can still be sued for gross negligence. The problem is: there's likely nothing they did not document or acknowledge in their side-effects and no exec is going to be retarded enough to put in writing, "We know this vaccine kills people but let's hide this in the research and publish it anyway to get FDA approval." This is the argument people like you are making and it's not true at all.
And also covid has an extremely small mortality rate. It literally kills the same category of people the flu kills every year.
Factually wrong. COVID-19 kills far more people each year, these last 2 years (world-wide), compared to the Flu:
https://www.who.int/news/item/11-03-2019-who-launches-new-global-influenza-strategy
NB4 "overcounting deaths." According to the deaths for all causes, we are likely undertracking COVID-19 deaths in the US. The UK is likely overtracking.
Explain the 64k of excess deaths not due to covid... Be happy with your decision in taking an experimental gene therapy but don't go spreading misinformation.
Except cvnt all nations not just usa waived liability and some obscure law in just the usa doesn't mean that it can be enforced.
Given the fact these drugs have killed America. Name one case CUNT that has been successfully brought to court.
You glow!
Thanks for info and data. I noticed a couple of things: - The doc does state that one is only considered vaccinated 14 days after the 2nd does, meaning anyone testing positive, hospitalized, or dying in that 14 days is counted as unvaccinated. It would be interesting to see the raw data on how many of the unvaccinated had received one shot or the 2nd within 14 days. -It does not list the cycles the PCR test was run at. At the start of the vaccination campaign, two cycle thresholds were set: one for vaccinated, one for unvaccinated. This also skews the data, and without knowing that for this data, makes this data hard to interpret until it is known. -The rise of infected and covid associated death follows the vaccination rollout, and is on a heavy decline now that the momentum and people lining up for shots is fading. Correlation does not equal causation, but it is an interesting observation for further study, which many have hypothesized about.
I'm not implying you are wrong, but like you accuse so many here of doing, we need to think critically about both sides of the debate and the data/arguments they present.
Considering the unprecedented shenanigan governments and their agencies have been up to with numbers and stats, its important we all show some skepticism and critical though, of them and for ourselves.
- The doc does state that one is only considered vaccinated 14 days after the 2nd does, meaning anyone testing positive, hospitalized, or dying in that 14 days is counted as unvaccinated. It would be interesting to see the raw data on how many of the unvaccinated had received one shot or the 2nd within 14 days.
Hundreds of posts/studies have been made that have this data. We know from the Human Trials that it takes the body about 7-10 days to produce the requisite antibodies and desired immuno-response outcomes. 14 days is a statistics thing: at that far out, it's supposed to be something like 4-5 sigma. If you plot the effectiveness, it looks asymptotic (hitting a maximum efficacy limit) - waiting "longer" doesn't make it more effective and then there is a gradual curve back up at 4+ months where the effects slightly wain.
It does not list the cycles the PCR test was run at.
Really doesn't matter at all for this conversation/topic. There's no additional value to gained and those thresholds are dictated by the PCR test manufacturers. It's apples to oranges and you can't blanket compare them all. Just like before, there are significant diminishing returns after 10 cycles.
https://health-desk.org/articles/what-do-we-know-about-pcr-threshold-cycles
The rise of infected and covid associated death follows the vaccination rollout
It does not. The exact opposite is true. Don't pay attention to the anti-science blogs that cherry pick specific time frames and countries.
It ia multi-factored: not all vaccines are equal. Moderna's is highly effective even 10+ after. The Russian and Chinese vaccines are not as good as the mRNA vaccines. Spacing vaccination between first and second dose also affects efficacy. When Delta hit, relative to vaccination rates, also impacted numbers. What should matter is the actual peer reviewed, published science, that fit predicted data models. And we have that:
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10.1377/hlthaff.2021.00619
We had vaccine shortages the first 2 months but that reduced over time. We could have saved significantly more lives if vaccination rates kept up for all 6 months starting in Jan. Unfortunately, the antivaxxers have too much of a voice and people are to likely to believe the bullshit. My personal estimates are around 20K-30K people have died, needlessly, because of the antivax disinformation (just the US, alone).
but like you accuse so many here of doing
You can probably understand my "I'm done with the retardedness" from poal attitude because the points you bring up, we have the data. And we've had it for a long time. But that data is not being talked about nearly as much as the antivax bullshit. They think, for some ultra ridiculously retarded reason, that the Jews are responsible for the vaccines to harm people. In reality, we have the actual evidence that the Chinese are sometimes behind the antivax bullshit in the US because they want to divide and literally kill Americans.
Can you imagine? What if everyone on Poal was forced to admit that much of their antivax talking points came from Chinese Disinformation Campaigns that exists specifically to divide and kill more Americans? That's the real conspiracy, we have the evidence, but not body talks about that.
Considering the unprecedented shenanigan governments and their agencies have been up to with numbers and stats, its important we all show some skepticism and critical though, of them and for ourselves.
While I agree, the folks are not doing that, here, when it comes to the vaccines. Some amazing content and research has popped up on this site (I'm a boomerang Poal user after Voat fell, hence the 1 in my name) but when it comes to the vaccines, they lose their damn critical thinking minds and just start shitting all over the places and eating each other's shit. Calling it retarded shit like "DNA editing vaccines!" when that's not even remotely close to what the mRNA vaccines are.
Anyway, thanks for not being an asshole and responding with a well-thought-out comment.
Oh two glowie on the same thread.
i see baelisrael, but whos the other one?
Make that three then cvnt.
Get a real job
Thanks for the daily dose of lies Fauci. Man is making the world heat up too.
No, the antivax disinformation really is coming from the Chinese. Most of the misinformation I'm seeing on Poal about the vaccines originated from the Chinese trying to hurt America.
Here's the quick summary of truth on the COVID-19 vaccines:
- These vaccines work and they work very well.
- These vaccines have side effects. And the side effects are not the same - folks should research and/or talk to their doctor to see which vaccine is a best fit, if at all. Avoid any of the antivax blogs which are full of disinformation.
- Natural immunity is far superior. The focus should be on antibody tests and antibody passports, not vax passports (I disagree with all of this passport stuff but if they forced passports, antibody checks would be far more science based). Natural immunity is king and no one is talking about it except folks on social sites like Poal.
- China is spreading much of the disinformation about the American vaccines. They want us to die. They want us to fight each other. Almost all the negatives about the vaccines are wrong or extremely blown out of proportion (like the clots).
Glow harder, nigger.
(He posted something that clearly proves we believed stupid shit. Either we're wrong or I can handwave it as him being a dirty filthy nigger. Hmmm...which one should I chose? Admit I've been wrong for years about this stuff or just call him a nigger?)
Okay, retard.
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