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Hi folks,

I'd like to explore this with as much civility and objectivity as possible. I'd like to know your thoughts pro, con, hypothesizes, what would make you change your mind, and internal biases. I'll begin:

1) PRO:

a. large number of EOs signed by Trump related to punishing criminals, military action / martisl law on CONUS, election fraud, etc.

b. Seems Trump brought the guard jnto D.C as Pelosi acted like she had not been consulted.

c. Gun salute to Biden was that of a visiting dignitary, not of a POTUS.

d. Understand "AF1" Hs not been uaed as a call sign, although "AF2" has.

e. special forces were removed from any CIA control and given essentially their own branch, as I understand. Also, I think CIA covert ops were essentially shut down (although, the CIA is probably pretty much an independent mind and might not follow orders so well.

f. misc wierd things reported around the Whitehouse, Vatican, changes in European leadership, shadowspear spec ops forum disapeared, etc. There was also the Frankfurt raid, but that was when Trump was in office.

g. Rooms at Trump D.C. hotel, on March 3rd, 4th and maybe 5th are over 2x the normal price, at least as of a week ago.

2) CON:

a. Why didn't Trump do it while in office. Psychologically, it would've been much easier for normies to accept there had been fraud if the charade was stopped immediately. Also, he was Commander in Chief, so the authority would've been less ambiguous.

b. There could be more minor explanations to the lack of use of "AF1" & the proper gun salute. Maybe a few officers wanted to show disrespect. This is quite different

c. Policies adversely affecting the country are being acted upon, like opening the boarder, having a creature who can't even keep its own bidy from being an abomination from overeating (not to mention-self mutilation) being in charge of the nation's health.....

d. Trump never blamed the Chinese for maliciously creating and releasing the virus. He never denounced virus fearmongering, stopped the lockdown or topped Fauci and he funded the vaccine. His knowledge of vaccine dangers is obvious because he was going have Robert Kennedy on a panel to review vaccines.

3) HYPOTHESIS:

I'd guess the military is in control, but I feel so unsure of things I'd say a 55 to 60% chance, which does drop over time.

4) BIAS:

I see no future fair elections unless serious action is taken. It is not merely corruption, but sovereignty will be permanently lost. It is not good to be an occupied nation. Thus, to improve my mood, I am biased to guess the military is in control.

Your thoughts?

Hi folks, I'd like to explore this with as much civility and objectivity as possible. I'd like to know your thoughts pro, con, hypothesizes, what would make you change your mind, and internal biases. I'll begin: 1) PRO: a. large number of EOs signed by Trump related to punishing criminals, military action / martisl law on CONUS, election fraud, etc. b. Seems Trump brought the guard jnto D.C as Pelosi acted like she had not been consulted. c. Gun salute to Biden was that of a visiting dignitary, not of a POTUS. d. Understand "AF1" Hs not been uaed as a call sign, although "AF2" has. e. special forces were removed from any CIA control and given essentially their own branch, as I understand. Also, I think CIA covert ops were essentially shut down (although, the CIA is probably pretty much an independent mind and might not follow orders so well. f. misc wierd things reported around the Whitehouse, Vatican, changes in European leadership, shadowspear spec ops forum disapeared, etc. There was also the Frankfurt raid, but that was when Trump was in office. g. Rooms at Trump D.C. hotel, on March 3rd, 4th and maybe 5th are over 2x the normal price, at least as of a week ago. 2) CON: a. Why didn't Trump do it while in office. Psychologically, it would've been much easier for normies to accept there had been fraud if the charade was stopped immediately. Also, he was Commander in Chief, so the authority would've been less ambiguous. b. There could be more minor explanations to the lack of use of "AF1" & the proper gun salute. Maybe a few officers wanted to show disrespect. This is quite different c. Policies adversely affecting the country are being acted upon, like opening the boarder, having a creature who can't even keep its own bidy from being an abomination from overeating (not to mention-self mutilation) being in charge of the nation's health..... d. Trump never blamed the Chinese for maliciously creating and releasing the virus. He never denounced virus fearmongering, stopped the lockdown or topped Fauci and he funded the vaccine. His knowledge of vaccine dangers is obvious because he was going have Robert Kennedy on a panel to review vaccines. 3) HYPOTHESIS: I'd guess the military is in control, but I feel so unsure of things I'd say a 55 to 60% chance, which does drop over time. 4) BIAS: I see no future fair elections unless serious action is taken. It is not merely corruption, but sovereignty will be permanently lost. It is not good to be an occupied nation. Thus, to improve my mood, I am biased to guess the military is in control. Your thoughts?

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I agree 100% that the military is in control.

Regarding #4: There is no lasting impression and therefore weaker/less-lasting changes if the problem isn't very clear to the public and extremely threatening. A strong case demands a strong reason for the changes, and changes that will never be able to be reversed under future admins. This is partly why Trump is playing it as though he was defeated in his plan and therefore excused from taking all the blame for what many people may have to suffer before it's all over. Many won't be willing to accept that it would be much worse if he had acted too soon, leaving many bad actors in place.

This explains most/all of the other points you listed.

And of course there is the likelihood that further evidence is being collected / bad actors identified by allowing Biden to exercise his powers (but only as the president of the USA corporation) and involve other bad actors (particularly foreign) who haven't had enough evidence collected on them yet.

There is also the possibility that military operations are going on in places like China that center around the recent election fraud and other matters related to the DS. The threat isn't erased just because people in-country are taken out of play.

It's also possible that infighting was predicted to occur once Trump was out of the way and the bad actors started re-adjusting their individual power structures, which would weaken them further and distract them from whatever might happen in the end to take them down.

We're really at our greatest point of blindness right now as to what Trump might have planned for the near future, but that means that the DS is too.