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Recently I have been reading some posts on GA that show A LOT of aggravation and frustration with the moderators there and after I read into it, it appeared that some of them are drawing lines in the sand and banning folks IMMEDIATELY for stupid, asinine things (having a different opinion, outside the 'worship Trump/Q' train of thinking....which is fine for some, but intellectuals who can think outside the tired, worn out scripts and ideas that fill the boards, you will find dissent and disagreement. I was a member of VOAT for 4 glorious years and miss it terribly. To see oppression and tyrannical loss of Free Speech by other Patriots on GA is ironic and an affront to those fighting the same mediocrity on Twitter and elsewhere, from those on the Left and in the MSM.

Critical thinking requires one to think outside the script and oftentimes, you stand up to the bullshit even pushed by those on your side. The pundits and influencers have all been pushing various forms of BS since Trump lost his election and Biden was 'put into the presidency. Not everyone is eating the fluff that they are putting out there and many see darker times ahead for the world. Some find themselves in the middle, and others believe that losing is 'all part of the plan' and that Trump, in all of his glory, will come back to us on March 4.

There seems to be a growing trend amongst the mods on the boards and on the video sites that dissent from message is to be avoided and those that do not worship the influencer or the message are quickly shut down as shills etc. This is stupid, insane, and unintelligent.

We deserve truth and honesty and somewhere in the mess of opinions from everyone, we get to decide for ourselves, a path forward based on the best intelligence and information available.Shutting down people that are tired of the 'Trust the Plan' BS is Nazi and intolerant and needs to stop. Intelligent people, by their nature, require rationality and reasonable assurances for them to hang their hat on statements and opinions offered as fact. Its is a natural thing to ask for this! To question blind obedience to ideas, statements and rumors that, so far, have given the Right, a miserable winter filled with confusion, feelings of loss and betrayal, and great fears for the future should be everyone's right.

I guess what I am saying is this: What site offers a place for ALL patriots to speak freely? Who best protects the rights and privileges of Free men and women? We need to come to some kind of understanding and agreement that while we are all Patriots, we will not always agree on things and that this very schism is our greatest strength: Differences of Opinions allowed to mesh freely on the board for everyone to read and think about and mull over. No one should be silenced because they are different than others. You might find that in time, many actually feel the same way but were afraid to say anything, lest they be cast into the land of Castaways.

We need to be the bastions of Liberty and Freedom and show that we truly tolerate and celebrate Free Speech. Its our biggest Constitutional right that, if taken away, or squelched, can really never recover.....

What all do you all think?

Are there other boards that we can explore as well that share these values?

Recently I have been reading some posts on GA that show A LOT of aggravation and frustration with the moderators there and after I read into it, it appeared that some of them are drawing lines in the sand and banning folks IMMEDIATELY for stupid, asinine things (having a different opinion, outside the 'worship Trump/Q' train of thinking....which is fine for some, but intellectuals who can think outside the tired, worn out scripts and ideas that fill the boards, you will find dissent and disagreement. I was a member of VOAT for 4 glorious years and miss it terribly. To see oppression and tyrannical loss of Free Speech by other Patriots on GA is ironic and an affront to those fighting the same mediocrity on Twitter and elsewhere, from those on the Left and in the MSM. Critical thinking requires one to think outside the script and oftentimes, you stand up to the bullshit even pushed by those on your side. The pundits and influencers have all been pushing various forms of BS since Trump lost his election and Biden was 'put into the presidency. Not everyone is eating the fluff that they are putting out there and many see darker times ahead for the world. Some find themselves in the middle, and others believe that losing is 'all part of the plan' and that Trump, in all of his glory, will come back to us on March 4. There seems to be a growing trend amongst the mods on the boards and on the video sites that dissent from message is to be avoided and those that do not worship the influencer or the message are quickly shut down as shills etc. This is stupid, insane, and unintelligent. We deserve truth and honesty and somewhere in the mess of opinions from everyone, we get to decide for ourselves, a path forward based on the best intelligence and information available.Shutting down people that are tired of the 'Trust the Plan' BS is Nazi and intolerant and needs to stop. Intelligent people, by their nature, require rationality and reasonable assurances for them to hang their hat on statements and opinions offered as fact. Its is a natural thing to ask for this! To question blind obedience to ideas, statements and rumors that, so far, have given the Right, a miserable winter filled with confusion, feelings of loss and betrayal, and great fears for the future should be everyone's right. I guess what I am saying is this: What site offers a place for ALL patriots to speak freely? Who best protects the rights and privileges of Free men and women? We need to come to some kind of understanding and agreement that while we are all Patriots, we will not always agree on things and that this very schism is our greatest strength: Differences of Opinions allowed to mesh freely on the board for everyone to read and think about and mull over. No one should be silenced because they are different than others. You might find that in time, many actually feel the same way but were afraid to say anything, lest they be cast into the land of Castaways. We need to be the bastions of Liberty and Freedom and show that we truly tolerate and celebrate Free Speech. Its our biggest Constitutional right that, if taken away, or squelched, can really never recover..... What all do you all think? Are there other boards that we can explore as well that share these values?

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It's the division they want to sow.

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Censorship only feeds echo chambers and destroys the center. Without the center all is lost. ("A house divided cannot stand.")

The way I see it is this: Censorship pushes people into divergent forums. Each forum caters to their group think and ejects those who don't conform. Those willing to entertain different perspectives or are questioning the group think are left homeless. The ideal way things should work is without any type of top down censorship, both the "left" and the "right" get to explain their grievances and POVs. Each camp gets to view themselves from the opposite camp's POV and evolve and eject the extremes in both camps. In this way a "center" is formed. Without this common forum, each camp is blind to the extremists within their camp.

The problem is that forums like 4 chan are seen as hotbeds for racism and antisemitism (which is true because those elements have no where else to go). What is really needed is bottom up censorship where people can select filters to view a free speech forum without the types of content that can be offensive. This allows participation by all, but those who are rude or crass will get ignored or filtered out by those who don't tolerate such offenses. Intelligent polite conversations about differing perspectives can bridge the gap by at lease letting each side understand where the other side is coming from. Propaganda and manipulation would not be effective in such a forum because the manipulation would be plain to see.

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If a board bans you for speaking your mind write it off and don't go back. You exactly where they are coming from. The MSM / High Tech approach to censorship. When enough critical thinkers leave the place will become intolerable for most. Just like turning off the MSM.

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Well I just got banned from GA. Asked to be added back and explained how critical thinking and proper discussion take place and that same think politics, and censoring aimlessly is how the Left functions. Was told that 'samethink' is what the Q boards wants. They do not want anyone coming in and second guessing their lord and savior (Q) or Trump. I guess offering critique and intelligent discussion about Q posts, pundit/influencer predictions, and the reality of our situation (We lost an election and major traction towards our Mission Goal due to poor decision making and poor personnel choices by Trump, due primarily to the traitors in his midst) is something that sparks such outrage, fear, and shame that they would rather roll around in hopium and ignore the sizable turds they dance in and out of daily.

I am too experienced of an operator, mission man, and judicious researcher to be butt hurt by truth newbies and 'nerds turned digital soldiers'. Most of them have never worked one day in the field or truly seen the world for what it is, up close and personal.

I am however, pissed at the level of pissy arrogance that seems to permeate GA Moderators. Honestly, I would like very much to get VOAT back online and have POAL and VOAT as the place to be for serious operators, movers and shakers. Critical thinking is a must and the ability to talk about issues from all sides is CRITICAL. No more same think and group think. Obsessing on Q or Trump, and not allowing for errors or imperfections is a terrible direction. Decisions WERE made last year that seriously jeopardized the Alliances mission to take out the DS. This is a fact. It is insulting to hear pundits and influencers swipe this away by saying this 'it was done on purpose' to wake up more people and give time to 'catch more traitors'. The worst is when they continually say 'its all part of the plan'. Losing is never part of the plan. Losing happens when you fuck up.

All this was discussed openly on VOAT and users were encouraged to be critical and come at things from all sides. However, most people on GA seem to be in their honeymoon phase with Q culture, and do not seem to understand that this is not some mysterious magical Dr Who thing happening. All they do is talk about coincidences, correlations, and patterns. This is old for me (2017,2018). There are serious matters now, and anyone with a critical eye can tell that the DS has hit hard and things went South. This is a military mission and missions are successful or failures based on good decision making and good forward traction. We are on track again, but truth is truth. It does not shatter my faith in Trump or Q. However, its good to be honest and not act like everything that happens is 'part of the plan'. We have not won every battle, but we are winning the war. That is the important part to realize.....I do not know why the pundits/influencers cant acknowledge truth and honesty and be upfront with the playing field. Its insulting to hear them say 'its part of the plan'. Losing is never part of the plan.

Anyways, whether its all about 'optics' or getting more people in the know about the truth and catching more of the bad guys by pretending to be weak and defeated, its all a game. Truth is very much needed however, in the debriefs. Tell the truth and then just say that on the upside, it will give us a chance to catch more bad guys and get more people on the right side of thinking.....

Anyways, its nice to have POAL here to talk freely. Damn shame about GA.