Exactly Patriot, since HCQ works, this should be over.
I'll be asking for HCQ or ivermectin
Amen Patriot, will be standing in line with you making the same request.
You can go get your old style quinine at any grocery store. How? Tonic Water. They have both sweetened and diet. Comes in a two liter bottle.
I can easily drink two liters in one day which is quite a strong dose.
That bitter taste is the quinine. HCQ is a synthetic milder version of the same chemical.
As you most likely know, this original substance was derived from a tropical tree.
"Dr" Fauci wrote the research papers on the effectiveness of HCQ a few years back describing how safe it was even for pregnant women.
Just to keep it perfectly honest I had already been drinking this Tonic Water starting when I realized I'd have to get a prescription to obtain HCQ and spend money on it.
Well, first off I'm not gonna wear a mask, no way no how. I've tried to at first and it was an unhappy experience leaving me with shortened breath and anxiety issues so bad I couldn't shop. Try to bring it down to breath at a local Walmart and was getting told off.
Finally I read the California Health Department "Guidelines" on the masks. No where in that guideline does it say "mandate" that I can recall. No where is it called an order. No where is a law cited. It's just lots of guidelines and bullet points.
Then at the bottom of all the blah blah it lists a series of "exemptions" of which I qualify on several counts.
So, anyways, I had some business with a neighbor over yard work she has asked me to do. She met me at her front yard while out trying to water some trees. She said she had been ordered with all the other office staff to be tested with the nose swab. The nurse will take a long handled swab and stick it up to a deep point in the nostrils. Both nostrils from what I gather by watching videos. They rub it around a bit and then send it off for the PCR test of which the inventor actually said it was being used improperly and giving many false positive results. He died soon after making his statements.
My neighbor said she was angry and suspicious that she got sick AFTER being tested and was tested again for another positive result and sent home. She is now forced to work at home as is most of the other office staff. Then her elderly father who lives with them also got sick as well as her two sons and she started bawling when she told me this. My heart went out to her as I listened to her tearfully and angrily state her suspicions about the test causing the illness. She was also sad because none of her friends came to visit with her in her home as they were terrified. I told her, I'm not afraid, I think it's a big nothing and stated that I was sure her father would be fine and I would see to it.
I rushed down to the store and picked up four liters for her and her family and explaining that it contained actual quinine.
Two days later I met her in her yard watering her trees again and she stated she felt fine now, had drunk the Tonic Water as well as giving it to her father. She gave me a plate of very nice food which I ate for supper.
Two days later I got a low fever and felt sluggish. I went back to the store NOT wearing a mask and bought more tonic water for myself. Two days later I was fine again with no fever.
Her boyfriend refused to drink the tonic water and had to be hospitalized for two weeks.
By the way, since I don't do well with refined sugar I opted for the diet Tonic Water. It's amazingly cheap at only one dollar for two liters of the store brand bottles.
You should read this article: https://www.healthline.com/health/quinine-in-tonic-water#versatile-beverage
Two liters is about the same as taking one pill. So, a dollar a dose.
Only side effects I have experienced are mild nausea. I can drink two liters in one day over the course of the day which I think gives a steady low dose of the drug.
It's from the Chichona tree, not sure of the spelling.
This is actually very good advice. This is the reason gin and tonic was so popular with the English in India. Kept malaria at bay, and other nasty illnesses.
Also used for the Panama Canal. However, I'll also mention that one of the programs during that construction process was the program of having people drain all sources of stagnant water where ever possible to reduce breeding sources for mosquitos.
Appreciate the information Patriot, we have been stocked up on the Tonic water. Shows us why research is critical. and like you pointed out, they have known , if I remember correctly 15 years and downgraded Caronavirus to a Class B virus.
I have never worn a mask either. and provided our Governor all the facts ad stated he needed to get all agencies investigating this along with the Feds. that was about 8 months ago.
I found interesting information on Oregano Oils and reportedly as long as it is quality made and Carvacrol is rated 70 or higher, it reportedly in a Michigan Uni. study killed 99.9% of the H1N1 in a hour. so we have taken it once or twice a week, and we have been doing fine, plus we follow common sense Flu procedures. Do the research on this and see what you think.
research Black Cummin seed oil.
You are ahead of me on thinking, research and logical thinking. I wish more people around me were as bright and insightful as you are. Thanks for the valuable tips. I don't freely go out shopping like I once did so I can't just go pick up the things you mentioned.
I hate being confronted because it takes an emotional toll on me to have to argue with people and explain things to them that they could easily learn on their own if they had the least bit of curiosity or rational thought.
I now only go to Stater Bro's since I've already had numerous confrontations with them and they've learned to just let me come in, get my food and get out.
Like, confronting me over not wearing a mask, causing a loud debate and upsetting me for hours afterwards is somehow helpful.
I'm usually a quiet reserved person until I hear someone making demands and getting in my face, outright lying to me when both of us are aware they are lying, disregarding easily available facts, etc.
I went to work with a liberal cousin a couple years ago in her small beekeeping business. It's an old family business and dropping out of welding at the time I had an acute sense of nostalgia.
We got on good at first but then the emotional abuse began, subtle at first. Just riding around with her I gradually became aware of subtle traits she had of starting a conversation, not liking my views and then interrupting to point out this or that Mosque, restaurant or something else totally unrelated in an attempt to shut me up.
She knows my views so what's with the effort to constantly change them when she either didn't have the facts on her side, lied about "facts" I know from research aren't true or citing research papers that don't even exist.
One argument she easily lost was telling me we should allow illegal aliens to just stream across our borders because they are native Americans.
First off, during the treaty signed with the newly formed Mexican government when it was only twenty years the US government paid 25 million in gold for the land taken from the Mexican government. Land that just 20 years prior was Spanish colony. The US government agreed that all residents north of the new borders would instantly be able to register as American citizens with full rights or by their choice relocate to Mexico. They would be allowed to cross the border to visit family even if they moved to Mexico and kept Mexican citizenship but not allowed to work in USA.
So no, the border didn't cross Mexican nationals. Those coming across the border today are literally invading to take advantage of lax enforcement of laws.
She then tried to claim I'm not a native so as European I don't have a right to live in the country I was born in and maybe should go back to Europe. Uh, no, I have many ancestors of Native American stock so that's a failed argument.
She then claimed I wasn't full blooded Native American so no, I have no rights to be here.
I pointed out that such a stance makes her a racist since she's advocating for racial purity. Which country should she go back to, Sweden or Germany. In spite of having some Jewish genetics she's not pure blood so Israel is out and she's atheist and not Jewish so doubly out of that game. "Oh, there's a nice restaurant over there, good eats".
On the topic of genetics we next clashed on inbreeding contributing to lowered IQs and genetic defects in certain populations. Cousin marriage in Islamic countries being the topic.
She stated there have been numerous studies proving that wasn't so. Research papers, etc. Nope. That kind of riled me because I have read many studies and articles on the topic and it's a known fact that inbreeding causes grave problems in genetics and a significant lowering of IQ in every population this becomes common. I had to tell her off for deliberately lying to me. Not even cool.
She has a Phd. in sociology and actually wrote a book she proudly showed me. Ugh. Horribly written using expensive words in an effort to seem scholarly. Total fail as after reading a few paragraphs at random found it to be pretentious and mere academic fluff. No real studies cited, just total conjecture and theory. When she returned a few minutes later I just said it's a nice book and set it aside. Based on reading Michelle Robinson's thesis it seems they might have studied together.
Before I quit working for her matters escalated to her throwing screaming fits, creating problems like causing a traffic accident, getting stuck, refusing to get a tire repaired when I warned her it had a slow leak and having to limp back to the warehouse and pump it up with an undersized compressor using equipment meant for an automobile. Autos use around 30 to 45 PSI while a large diesel truck uses around 150 PSI so you using a small compressor it takes about an hour to get to full pressure. Very slow and then you have a load of angry bees crawling all over. Not fun. The nit picking, fault finding and looking for non existent problems rather than taking care of real issues I warned about was highly frustrating.
I will never truly understand the liberal mind and their propensity to be irrational and dishonest.
I surely will look into black cumin. I'm assuming it's related to the cumin I get in the ethic foods section.
That is interesting that you say it worked with just 2 liters a day.
I do think quinine inhibits sars cov 2 but Im not sure that 2 liters will be enough to make a big difference in a symptomatic patient typically. Perhaps Im wrong because there are no in vivo studies of quinine and covd.
A liter of good tonic water like schweppes might have 60 or 65 mg of quinine base a bottle. A really low dose of quinine would be around 250 or 300mg of quinine base. For treatment of malaria or serious viral illness they might use 1000 mg a day of quinine base in the form of quinine sulfate or some other compound, which is a pretty high dose.
If i was trying to treat covid with quinine I would shoot for a higher dose than 2 liters, maybe 4 to 6 liters. That is a dose that should be safe if you are not allergic to quinine and should inhibit replication of the virus if given in the early stages of symtoms.
This is a product that might make that easier.
https://www.amazon.com/Top-Hat-India-Tonic-Syrup/dp/B01IN7E3Q8
which claims to have 5x the quinine content of tonic. There is a sugar free version which does not make that claim but probably has higher quinine content than regular tonic.
A little caution might be warranted using high quinine concentrates since quinine does have a lot of side effects in higher doses like they use on malaria, — one of them is the dangerous heart complication called qt prolongation that occurs with HCQ as well in people with bad kidney and/ or heart conditions ( eg, diabetics.)
Or you can get hcq here without a script. https://farmaciasdelnino.mx/eng/items/?kw=Plaquenil
I think you can probably get doxycycline or azithromycin there too. I cant vouch for this company personally.
I think 1liter of tonic water a day is possibly enough to prevent or greatly reduce the severity of covid if you take it as a preventative with some immune supplements (vitamin c,d, etc).
I did a lott of research on quinine in the early stages of the epidemic and hoarded about 50 bottles. Then I discovered Im allergic to it, haha.
But a this stage the point is probably moot because the data on ivermectin is that it is turning out to be not only more effective on covid but also safer to take for the elderly, and is working as well as the vaccine prophylactically at very low doses.
So needless to say I have my ivermectin. Everybody over 50 should have this in the house.
No script necessary. Tried this out on myself. My dad is taking a small prophylactic dose, (1/4 dose a week).
1 dose a day for 2 to 5 days in the early stage covid is recommended by many docs publicly and most cases respond in 48 hrs after 2 doses. https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/Marik-Covid-Protocol-Summary.pdf
Drug interactions are few and minimal at one dose a day. It really is basically “the cure” if taken early. I did a fair amount of research on this drug and hcq and this one is better imo. HCQ does work but with some people with heart and kidney disease the cardiac risks are significant. I gave serious attention to the issue because of a relative with these problems. Ivermectin is only really dangerous in very high doses like > 10x the normal dose. Although not safe for pregnant people.
Like HCQ and quinine it works on a broad range of viruses and it should inhibit influanza A very effectively. Seems to inhibit some bacteria as well. And obviously it is an anti-parasitic.
I won't say Tonic Water cured the mild fever I had. It's doubtful the virus I deliberately picked up from my neighbor was actually covid 19 because so far, 7 labs attached to university studies failed to isolate such a virus and the CDC has admitted it has also failed to find such a virus. They did find the flu and other virus in the 1500 samples from covid patients but no covid 19. I will say that according to my neighbor she was told she had covid 19. Her sons were out on a Sunday and I asked how they were doing and they described symptoms consistent with a low grade fever, much like I experienced. I've had the flu in the past and symptoms of pneumonia which were quite severe and lasted a couple weeks so I know what it is to be very sick but this brief fever was extremely mild. If it's covid, it's a huge nothing. Even her elderly father was over it in a couple days. She told me he had it also after she was infected and I noticed she didn't bring him out for at least a week other than to transport him to the doctor and then quickly take him inside when they returned.
Then the next week he was outside in his wheelchair sunning by himself and was seeming to be his cheerful self waving and shouting a greeting to me as I passed by on my bicycle.
Her boyfriend who she reported to me as having refused to drink tonic water was the only one who was significantly ill and spent two weeks in hospital.
I estimate a two liter bottle contains about 166 milligrams of quinine. Certainly a low dosage but enough to make me nauseous.
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