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Men ignoring women and letting them face the consequences of their pedo enabling is forcing women to reevaluate their libtard views and challenge the narrative.

Leaving women unloved, unmentored and unprotected is driving real change.

The mgtow men have done more to help wake up women than anything else.

Now we have the liberal harpies starting to see the light and abandoning the liberal feminist agenda for traditional values.

Leaving them to their cats is the worst punishment they can face. Their fear of growing old alone with no kids is breaking them. Even Sarah Silverman isn't a liberal now!

They are being faced with no quality men. All they have to chose from are narcissistic chads and beta soyboys. The good men have left the plantation and their used arbies roast beef isn't enough to win them back.

The good men are crushing feminism. Long may it continue!

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Sarah Silverman is vermin.

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Yes she is. But even rats know when to abandon a sinking ship!

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What? Jewish SilverMAN a vermin?

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SILVERman? The nose knows, and when a metal is in the name, well...

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Bro. You totally had this. More like Sarah Silvermin

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This is wishful thinking

I'd be happy to see otherwise, but it'd require data not some dude saying things on the internet

Every woman I meet either openly says she's a feminist or would say yes if you asked. Maybe some old whores are realizing their days are numbered. But one Sarah Silverman saying she's changed now that her eggs are nearly dried up won't undo the millions of young minds she impressed upon

Lotta wishful thinking from the people who don't like the establishment. Be realistic - don't marry or have children with whores. And yes, being a whore yesterday, 5 years ago or even 20 years ago counts.

If you marry or have children with whores, the fallout is all yours. You can't change that there are whores, but you can refuse to give into them.

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Yes. Only a degenerate simp would put his dick in a hole where another has been before.

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Wtf, bro. I'm considered radical and subversive for telling guys to hold out for a girl that isn't a slut (n≤10). Holding out for a virgin is impossible after a certain age. Should have married your high school sweetheart.

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Leaving women unloved, unmentored and unprotected is driving real change.

I dont really see how this is happening. Lots of leftist men and dykes to love them in their echo chambers. Psychotherapists to prop them up emotionally . Cops are still on the job responding to 911 calls from SJWs with purple hair. Are you sure they even notice MGTOW?

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they will cater to their rapists. they fear them more than they fear us

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Sarah Silverman

Is a fucking kike and every letter in that post is jewish.

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women are not smart enough to change their minds. you have to wait until they cant have kids for them to realize they fucked up. they are being bribed with drugs, power, wealth, vacations and enough other things to satiate them for as far as they can think forward add worldly spite for having to bleed and not be able to punch yourself out of a situation..

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"good men" fucking lol, the good men are settling down having having kids after a women quickly changed her views to please him

simple fact is that the mgtow where low value males to start with and rather than working to better them selves they just gave up on women, at that point you might as well just be a faggot, at least then you would get laid when going your own way with other men away from the women

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How feminist of you. It's all about fucking.

The men that do get married are cucked by the state. They have allowed the women to completely disempower them. You think that's masculine behaviour?

A real man gives his power to no one for no reason.

All of these "good women" have the whole system behind them if they want to destroy their husbands, kids, families, communities and nations.

Let the chads and betas have them.

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The men that do get married are cucked by the state.

Wow so you are against monogamy?

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oy vey, stop your kvetching

you are a untermensch that cant control your women, whos fault is that?

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Only faggots and men with low quality DNA claim to hate women.

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A lot of women are terrible people, then they go on to have children and treat them horrendously.

This results in those children projecting their view of their mother onto all women. Literally, mommy issues prevent a lot of men from being aware.

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This is the argument for polygamy.

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How did you get there?

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In polygamy, men with high quality DNA get women, and men with low quality DNA are violent incels who hate women.

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Societies thrive when the men protect their wives and daughters.

Absolutely true.

However, men need to understand what has happened to many broken women in modern culture, and what they need to protect themselves from. Marriage should be a partnership - one I highly recommend - but many men legally bind themselves to a psychologically ruined combatant, and the deck is stacked against them in that fight.

Men also need to understand how gender relationships got to this point, and the dangers of pushing the "equality" of sameness on fundamentally different beings. Many men are still stuck in the worldview that we are basically interchangeable with women in most meaningful ways, and they need to see the damage that idiocy causes.

But yes, hating women is stupid. A healthy woman plays a good, necessary, and complimentary role in a healthy family - which is the basis for a healthy society.

>many men legally bind themselves to a psychologically ruined combatant, and the deck is stacked against them in that fight

Thankfully, there's a great predictor out there for men to avoid so that men can bind themselves to genuine wife material. (winteryknight.com) More men really should realize this.

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OR society thrives when women are worth protecting.

Right now, they aren't.

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That’s awfully general. I mean if I found a good one it can’t be that bad out there.

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I love my women for being women, with all of thier greatness and faults. I do not want my women to be men, which is what the women hate posters seem to want.

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I do not understand the mindset, then again I love women... mostly my wife. She’s been on a roll with getting her liberal friends to make jokes they “shouldn’t”.

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If she was on a roll murdering her liberal friends it would be better.

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Women need a strong man to tell them what to do. Government has taken the place of that strong man, manipulating women to whatever it deems necessary to its ends, and now they are universally unfulfilled by not following their natural born desires to have a stable family.

Muslims for instance strictly control their women, and they are both happier for it.

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This is just literally completely incorrect. Women have a lower status in islamic polygamist societies because they are commoditized. Powerful (strong, wealthy) males can have multiple females, which makes females closer to livestock economically. The benefit for females is that many of them can have access to the high value alpha sperm— their children can be sired by the “best” male.

But this creates a scarcity of females for the averge male. The most ambitious or aggressive males are the only ones that are reproductively successful. Therefore polygamy breeds for violence between males rather than cooperation. Economic disparity among males also increases. Basically there are more incels and they are violent. Islam sublimates this problem by sending extra males on jihad to conquer new lands, permiting them to rape or steal other people’s women. Or die and go to paradise where 72 virgins await. Islam breeds intra-male violence.

It also increases age disparity among mates (child brides, kiddie fucking) and decreases cooperation among males.

In the monogamy package, females have a higher status than polygamy. Men are less likely to be violent and more likely to cooperate toward economic prosperity. Men are more solicitous to one wife and one set of children since they have less of them (quantity vs quality tradeoff). Monogamy is the reason why white contries are nice, women have higer status, and men are less rapey. Our entire society is based on monogamy. We were selected for these traits genetically over thousands of years.

Why are muslim countries shitholes? Why do they always fight amongst each other? Why are they so rapey. Polygamy. That is why. You cant pick and choose. Its not a buffet. Polygamy comes with a set of downstream genetic propensities among men and women. So does monogamy.

Read: https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/monogamous-societies-superior-to-polygamous-societies

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The benefit for females is that many of them can have access to the high value alpha sperm— their children can be sired by the “best” male.
The most ambitious or aggressive males are the only ones that are reproductively successful.

How is this any different than the desires of Western women? They literally all want the same high-status man. In that scenario, women get exactly what they're after! The difference is that Western values do not allow polygamy, which forces Western women to settle, increasing the desire for promiscuity. The reality is that for both humans and animals, most do not breed: the natural order dictates that the best reproduce.

The problems in the middle-East stem from their society of ultra-masculine beliefs which promotes and glorifies violence. Whereas the West has become too soft, they are too strict; none of this has to do with their women however.

Monogamy is the reason why white countries are nice

No, it's because they are White.

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Im going to have to explain evolution to you, its tiresome.

Whites’ ancestors were not always white and they did not always behave like whites. Things like climate and culture shaped us as a population GENETICALLY.

You didnt read the article. : https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/monogamous-societies-superior-to-polygamous-societies

Following either a polygamous or monogamous culture causes certain genes to be favored which predispose the populations toward certain behavior. Muzzies are ultra masculine (violent, rapey, dominant) because those are traits that polygamy favors. Only hypercompetitive males who hoard females and fuck little girls succeed reproductively in muslim societies. Their genes are propagated. Everyone in the middle east is descended from a hypercompetitive alpha who chopped up his brothers with a sword so he could fuck a different 15 year old every day of the week. That behavior is determined by genes. You think its the culture which glorifies violence because you are dumb. Polygamy increases violence which is reflected in the culture.

I contend that this happens pretty rapidly with noticeable changes in violence levels within a few centuries or less. Pakistanis and bengalis are noticeably more violent then neighboring buddhists and hindus an theyve only been islamized abou 500 to 800 years I think.

All polygamist communities are high violence regardless of “culture” or race.

How is this any different than the desires of Western women?

Oh you’re so close grasshopper. Traditionally western women have been monogamist as have western men. But we have removed the rules and even trained whites in a different set of rules, essentially polygamy. Women dont see this as polygamy yet, just sexual freedom. Neither do males genrally. Some of the unintended consequences have already cropped up— large numbers of angry incels. The feminists will laugh this off because they dont understand what the monogamist package is and what the polygamist package is. They are voluntarily demoting themselves in terms of social power and trading prosperity and stability for poverty and chaos. Because like you they dont understand evolution. The other genetic shoe will drop in a few generations, because soy boys too sensitive to reproduce— only the most agressive and greedy males are.

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MGTOW = JIDF

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Bullshit. Ever been completely ruined by a woman? Have kids and get a divorce. You will understand EXACTLY why Mgtow is a thing.

Edit- I am not saying not to get married and have kids. I am and have 5, however, be very fucking cautious. I understand mgtow, and I dont disagree with a lot of it.

Oh Boo Hoo. I hate Women

Just hang yourself, weakling.

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Just fuck yourself, faggot.

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Hypergamy is a game for many a dame.

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Emotionally? Yes. Financially? Fuck no, I got pre nups both times.

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I Didn't have the foresight back then. Different times and all, I guess. I lost on both accounts, lol.

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Women need to be controlled. That is female nature. The other side is their chaotic side. If they are not controlled their insanity comes out to ruin societies. This has happened many times across the world.

Men become weak, allowing women to start making the decisions that they previously made. It is not to say Men do not play a role in this destruction. By giving up their power, that is exactly what they have done. But the poisoning of our food AND water has accelerated this process. We have allowed ourselves to be weakened by the Jew.

There are often never one issue that relates to a societal problem. Rather, there are multiple issues. But we have made our bed over the last 30-40 years, and now we must now lay in it. We need to find the solutions to take down the ZOG.

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Men need to be controlled. Why do you think women need to be controlled but men dont? Thats ridiculous.

I think you are overlooking the fact that men largely choose to become polygamous in the last century (premarital sex, divorce, remarriage, porn, prostitution ) without realizing the immediate benefits had some unintended consequences. Polygamy is bad for the average male. It favors a small number of men over the totality of men. It increases wealth disparity, and increases violence between males. Men that can get away with polygamy do if all other males let him.

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Keep spewing bullshit, it doesn't really matter to me. You sound like a libshit kike who has no understanding of history, nor human nature. Out of being annoyed, I will respond.

I held out on responding to your first post because it was based off of broad generalizations. That response had the same exact talking points on polygamy, which has nothing to do with this conversation. I am wondering if you are stuck in some kind of showerthought-loop which you can't escape from?

And backpeddling to your last response; Islam is right about women. You can agree with certain aspects of a religion without agreeing with the religion as a whole. Most modern day religions originated from Zoroastrianism. And then each successive religion borrowed cultural practices from one another as time moved on.

And in response to the current thread; men are only swayed by the culture of a society, which is controlled by the Jew. If you think/believe anything else, you need to re-evaluate your critical thinking skills. The Jews control the banking system, Hollywood, and more than likely, the health beauracracy in this country. The evidence of the CDC repeatedly revising COVID numbers is relatable to the latter explanation. Also, the PCR test is crap. Viral threshholds are a joke, and were also revised before and after the election.

As far as you believing that men need to be controlled, how Jewish of you! That is exactly what a Jew would say in this situation. That is why we had a free market economy (not so much now cause of the Jew) because men can make their own decisions! In case you didn't know,, we let the free market drive the economy, and great things can happen! Free thinking men (which most are) are much less malleable to Jewish brainwashing than women are!

And by any chance, are you Jewish?

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same exact talking points on polygamy, which has nothing to do with this conversation.

It has everything to do with this conversation. You cant have the “control” of islam’s patriarchal polygamy without a whole other set of behaviors that go along with that. Monogamy favors higher status for women because of the nature of monogamous marriage. Females gain power when they are the only wife.

It doesnt matter if you agree with certain aspects of islam. There is a package of traits that go along with monogamy and a package of traits that go along with polygamy:

https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/monogamous-societies-superior-to-polygamous-societies

The phylogenic relationships of religions to one another dont matter. What matters is what type of society is implemented on the basis of that religion.

men are only swayed by the culture of a society,

Men are “swayed” by culture and genetics. Women are swayed by culture and genetics. Those are literally the only two inputs that go into human beings. Maybe you want to add physical environment like proper nutrition or something. Am I missing something here? What else would one be influenced by other than culture and genes, regardless of whether they were male or female.

As far as you believing that men need to be controlled, how Jewish of you!

Men need to be controlled. Society restricts the behavior of men and women through the culture: religion and law, maybe economic means. We dont allow men to run hog wild in a functional civilization. Men are not allowed to have sex with children in most european cultures. Historically we have executed those men. Men that cheated in the market place were also exiled or executed. Men that stole were executed. Men that fucked other peoples wives were executed.

white men are inherently just and non-jewish

No. We culled our own population of exploiters and deceivers and rule breakers for thousands of years to get the modern white man. If we no longer enforce any of those strict laws, the genetics of white men will return to nignog because of entropy. White men need to be controlled through cultural institutions just like women. Culture works as a device of natural selection, favoring some genetic traits over others.

The jewish accusations are just so cute. I guess you use them because you cant come up with an intelligent defense for your own ideas. Cant you argue your own case on its merits? You can’t win against a lowly female like me using logic? Its baby-ish ad hominem and it makes you look stupid.

But play dirty as much as you like. I can still out debate you with one frontal lobe tied behind my back.

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Woman hate threads? Where are those?

First of all, plenty of our problems in society are derived from men allowing women to take authority positions.

Women have fucked up everything in which men have allowed them to take authority over. That doesn't mean we hate women, that means we recognize feminism puts women in a position they weren't designed to be in, for the purpose of destroying family and society. There's a reason Satan first deceived the woman. They are more spiritually sensitive, yet more vulnerable to deception.

Men should protect women, but that's not the difficult task ahead of us. The difficult task ahead of us is for men to recognize that they must be leaders and to correct women when they try to take roles they don't belong in. Men are too chickenshit to challenge women about anything, and that's why we're in the mess we're in.

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There are woman hate posts daily on this forum.

I dont mean anti-feminist threads. I mean “all women are evil whores” threads. Daily.

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In that case it is pretty juvenile and doesn't do anything constructive.

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Ofc it's a psyop, it's cultural marxism., Just like the psyop of pitting all brownies against whites.

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