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We need a new movement in web development. We need to make it so that it will be absolutely frowned upon to have a website that doesn't work without JavaScript enabled unless it is absolutely necessary. This MUST be a requirement for the future development of websites on the Internet. If there should be any truth to the hype about a "Web 3.0", then this is one of the most important matters besides more decentralization.

> We need a new movement in web development. We need to make it so that it will be absolutely frowned upon to have a website that doesn't work without JavaScript enabled unless it is absolutely necessary. This MUST be a requirement for the future development of websites on the Internet. If there should be any truth to the hype about a "Web 3.0", then this is one of the most important matters besides more decentralization.

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[–] 2 pts

I am a VP of Tech. Stuff needs to be built fast and cheap or else it won't get built at all. Platforms and Javascript are HUGE accelerators for this.

The author is one of those programmer purists who would rather chose "perfect" over "good enough" and thus nothing will EVER get deployed on time or within budget. This is why business runs the way it does, and "tech for tech's sake" doesn't work.

TLDR, the author has no idea how the world actually works

[–] 1 pt

This!

People can complain all they want about "bloat" but the bottom line is that using frameworks you can get a better product build faster, with less experienced resources being required.

If you want a more efficient product without any frameworks, and the project has the budget to do it, then by all means spend the time to do things without a framework.

[–] 1 pt

Yup. Everything sucks because customers don't want to pay for it.

[–] 0 pt

For most websites competent CSS and minimal DHTML/AJAX are not just good enough but better than "reactive" websites. We don't need 3rd party fonts that require an entire framework to be loaded each time.

[–] 0 pt

I agree with this. There is certainly a good middle ground between "HTML only" and "every crap widget and unnecessary feature under the sun".