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We need a new movement in web development. We need to make it so that it will be absolutely frowned upon to have a website that doesn't work without JavaScript enabled unless it is absolutely necessary. This MUST be a requirement for the future development of websites on the Internet. If there should be any truth to the hype about a "Web 3.0", then this is one of the most important matters besides more decentralization.

> We need a new movement in web development. We need to make it so that it will be absolutely frowned upon to have a website that doesn't work without JavaScript enabled unless it is absolutely necessary. This MUST be a requirement for the future development of websites on the Internet. If there should be any truth to the hype about a "Web 3.0", then this is one of the most important matters besides more decentralization.

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This!

People can complain all they want about "bloat" but the bottom line is that using frameworks you can get a better product build faster, with less experienced resources being required.

If you want a more efficient product without any frameworks, and the project has the budget to do it, then by all means spend the time to do things without a framework.