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It's a fork of SIgnal before it was bought out, removing all the Google services (Signal uses giigle cloud messaging services to send all messages). Nothing goes over "Data". It's all SMS/MMS, old-school infrastructure, with end-to-end encryption. Also, all messages are encrypted locally. If your device is compromised, the attacker would still need to spend the time decrypting your messages.

Silence focuses on SMS and MMS. This fork aims to:

  • Keep SMS/MMS encryption
  • Drop Google services dependencies (push messages are not available in Silence)
  • Integrate upstream bugfixes and patches from TextSecure

- Silence gitlab (git.silence.dev) -- (self hosted cersion control, nice touch)

It's a fork of SIgnal before it was bought out, removing all the Google services (Signal uses giigle cloud messaging services to send all messages). Nothing goes over "Data". It's all SMS/MMS, old-school infrastructure, with end-to-end encryption. Also, all messages are encrypted locally. If your device is compromised, the attacker would still need to spend the time decrypting your messages. > Silence focuses on SMS and MMS. This fork aims to: > * Keep SMS/MMS encryption > * Drop Google services dependencies (push messages are not available in Silence) > * Integrate upstream bugfixes and patches from TextSecure > \- [Silence gitlab](https://git.silence.dev/Silence/Silence-Android/) -- *(self hosted cersion control, nice touch)*

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The Session messenger is a fork of Signal, designed to be even more secure than Signal. Think of it as a Signal fork meets a Monero fork meets an incentivized TOR network.

https://restoreprivacy.com/secure-encrypted-messaging-apps/session/ https://itsfoss.com/session-messenger/ www.getsession.org

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I don´t think you understand it, Signal is a messenger and the app you make reference to is not. That app as your description quotes, it only encrypts SMS messages, it is not a messenger.

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This is why signal is so great. It's open source and easily forked.

Which is also it's greatest flaw. Like Linux. Anyone can throw some garbage together. But anyone can throw some brilliance together too

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Silence looks fine, but what's all this about Signal being compromised? Using a cloud service to send encrypted messages isn't a dealbreaker for me. SMS could be snooped by Verizon just the same as Google could snoop data messages. Who cares if encrypted?

From their website

Signal is an independent nonprofit. We're not tied to any major tech companies, and we can never be acquired by one either. Development is supported by grants and donations from people like you.

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Couple things

  1. Signal is no longer on Open Source App stores like F-Droid (signal started on f-droid)
  2. $50 million investment into signal from WhatApps founder (whatsapp now owned by facebook): https://archive.vn/eVU5f
  3. Mandatory signup using personal phone number
  4. Signal must be kept up-to-date or you cannot use the app
  5. You must update via Google Play Store or Apple App Store

You are correct about the encrypted messages being sniffed by the cell carrier; however, with Silence, there's a lower risk of your private keys being exposed. With SIgnal, I guarantee your private keys are being stored by google on, during, or after install/setup of the Signal app.

Hence, Google has your encrypted messages AND the private keys required to decrypt them. With Silence, Version m ay be able to sniff your encrypted messages, but they cannot decrypt them because you

  1. Got Silence from an Open Source App store (or built it yourself)
  2. Didn't have to sign up with any service using phone number
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Thanks for the reply. I checked up on Fdroid you're right not there anymore. Time to switch it up again. Security is a constant battle