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Beartaria rising.

I can't agree with you more... when do you think it died? My feeling is that it died when they changed the constitution from only white land owning males could vote... right then when that was changed the second revolution should have started and they should have done a couple things.

  1. Sent every non white out of the country period end of story.
  2. I would have given the Indians a big chunk of the center of America like a big piece and said you are your own nation with no ports but they didn't need ports
  3. The Indian nation at the time had to maintain and allow buffallo to roam their traditional range or what ever was created that would work.
  4. Strengthen the constitution against foreign involvement
  5. Strengthened the the constitution against federal power and central banks
  6. Out lawed Islam and Judaism
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It started to come apart the moment that Lincoln made the decision to exercise tyrannical powers and completely ignore the plain text of the US Constitution in order to force people that wished to exercise their specifically enumerated "freedom of association" in order to no longer associate with the North.

He did this for one reason and one reason only. Money. The only source of income available to the federal government at that time was excise taxes on exports, and the only states that were net exporters were in the South. The US gov still owed loans, plus interest, to France from the Revolution. The North, on it's own, would have foundered under the weight of that debt.

The instant the supreme executive uses force in order to crush a constitutional right to leave, it is rendered null and void forever after, and the "citizens" are now prisoners to that power.

The next major blow was in 1913 with the establishment of the Federal Reserve, which effectively gave a private bank, owned by the Rothschild family, control over the nation's money supply and placed the people in debt to them, established the US as a corporation (with a corporate ID number), the federal income tax to service the debt incurred by allowing the Rothschilds to print and lend us our own fucking money, and the IRS as a collection agency empowered to use force to collect that debt.

And here we are, just as surely as night follows day.