Okay that makes sense. I think it makes sense that we have two survival modes, one dominant and one submissive.
So you are thinking of something along the lines of neuro-linguistic programming or maybe something like Falun Gong has accomplished, that changes thinking rather than trying to argue many little issues.
Yeah, that is basically it.
I really believe it is a skill stack + understanding that loser think / winner think is literally engaging specific circuitry in our heads.
In my opinion, there is an interplay between those two things that requires some guidance. Take a plumber that has some experience, here are some possibilities:
1) Has excellent plumbing skills + always engaging loser think circuitry.
The loser think circuitry will totally overwhelm all of the other mental subsystems and colour his view of the world. This will define his world, his possibilities, his happiness, the kinds of people that he associates with, etc.
2) Has excellent plumbing skills + always engages winner think circuitry.
The winner think circuitry will totally overwhelm all of the other mental subsystems and colour his view of the world. This will define his world view, his choices, his happiness, the kinds of people that he associates with, etc.
3) Has terrible plumbing skills + always engaging loser think circuitry.
I have had guys like this work for me. There is no possible way of helping them. The circuitry is so deeply set, you can only hope they find their place in life somewhere.
4) Has terrible plumbing skills + always engages winner think circuitry.
If someone doesn't help these guys find a skill they are good at, engaging the winner think circuitry makes for a weird mix. I have only seen this in younger men just starting out, they tend to be so over-optimistic that sometimes they live in a fantasy like land where they think they are geniouses but in reality are maybe below average at best.
So, the first part is the skill set. A man needs to be good at something and be recognized at being good in a genuine way. He has to get to a place in at least one skill where he KNOWS that he knows what he is talking about, to the point where he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.
The second part is understanding that loser think / winner think is literally engaging different circuitry in your head. I don't fully understand how I do it, it isn't a specific set of things that I do to engage one or the other. But, when you are running a business and you have to make sure you have income coming in, and that money has to cover payroll and expenses and have some left over for you and family, that fucks with you on all kinds of levels. What I noticed was that when I was driving, there would be times where the situation would seem like the end of the world and nothing could go right and at other times I would be driving and THE EXACT SAME SITUATION would seem to be just fine, I can visualize the rough solution and I can visualize the FEELING THAT THERE IS A SOLUTION.
Same situation, but my brain could switch gears.
What I started to notice was that when I was young, most of my thinking was engaging loser think circuitry. As I have gotten older and learned all kinds of skills and was forced to talk in front of people, train, etc, I was only engaging winner think circuitry. That isn't the unusual part. The unusual part is that as I got older, every once in a while something would flip in my head and I would end up n loser think mode. Because it happened fairly quickly, I was still able to remember aspect of the winner think circuitry like visualizing and thinking about the success I was about to have that the loser think circuitry can't really get enough time to overwhelm the rest of the neural circuitry to dominate and it would flip back. I can pretty well control now.
That is kind of what I have in mind. I'm talking only for men, I don't know how any of this works for the female mind. For men, we are work mules we exist to provide for our families and die on the battle field. We need to find value in our selves through our work and we have to get good at something. At the same time, that isn't enough. The other part of this is the engaging of loser / winner circuitry in our heads. I believe the circuitry actually exists, but I have no proof of this nor have read any reasearch on it. But anyone that has been an entrepreneur knows if they are looking at someone whose loser circuitry is engaged or winner circuitry is engaged, this is a thing in sales and leadership.
The last part of this is training and passing on the skills. I find it strange that my father did not train me in any of this. I had to learn it on my own. The reason it's strange is because, in retrospect, it seems like knowledge all fathers should have and all fathers should be a place in their life where they can competently train their childrens in these skills.
But I think we can fix this. We don't have to train everyone, just enough people so that our mirror neurons start to mirror the behaviour to everyone else through the network effect.
And this isn't really anything new. If you want to see a group of people that:
engage loser think mental circuitry
have no skills
propagate loser think behaviour through the network effects of mirror neurons replicating behaviour it sees all around them
Just look at the left. They are all a bunch of losers that feel sorry for them selves, cannot accomplish anything, destroy everything conservatives build, etc.
Conservatives, on the other hand, have the skills but engage loser think circuitry and don't do shit about shit.
Your earlier point about jews not fighting any wars and getting white people to kill them selves was all done with propaganda. Propaganda works. And it works because its transmission pathway is primarily through network effects + mirror neurons in my opinion.
This is what excites me about the engagement we get on the site. Okay, it's mostly blackpill bullshit. But, all we have to do is flip that one switch from loser think to winner think and engage the positive circuitry in just enough people that hopefully the network effects take over and we start getting our people and our civilization back.
// NOTE: This post is mostly notes for me. I am finding that writing this shit is boring as fuck, getting a prompt from someone SOMEHOW makes it fun to think out and write down so this will help me in the future.
If anyone has any questions, fire away.
Save it for your dissertation on how much you want to fellate Spic Fuentes, homo.
Your comments are pretty good crunchy, so feel free to think aloud around me.
I have sometimes asked people around here to not engage in Wehrmachtzersetzung which is literally military defeatism which was punishable for a while in Germany. They are psyching us out through the culture. We can create our own culture which shuts them out. To an extent thats what we have done here on sites like Poal, but what is the point when we keep passing the poison pill to ourselves. I think theres a good chance that some of the voices here are in fact agents sent to demoralize. We must root out and ostracize the members that excessively black pill.
So you know I focus alot on evolution and we’ve had some discussions on the subject. Your winner/loser paradigm makes sense in that context, and migh parallel some male female dynamics and also some social hierarchy dynamics within a society.
We are all vying for reproductive success as individuals but we are also part of these colony creatures called societies and we must balance our individual interests with the well being of society. Societies that have alot of members with high altruism can succeed as long as they are not infiltrated by deceivers and opportunists, which is what we have now.
Maybe loser thinking has its place in a genetically homogeneous society, because everybody can’t be chief. Somebody’s got to be at the bottom of the hierarchy. Its better for the society if they can accept that place peacefully like a good loser, so perhaps having a loser mode is good for society if not for any individual in particular.
But if your hierarachy has been hijacked by an endogamous group of social parasites descended from some bronze age cult of priests, I think you need to build a new culture for a new society and not submit to slave status. They are master manipulators because of their unique evolution living off of other people. They are sending signals to submit to “loser think“ through the culture. They are good at it. But these are false signals. They are not us, they are not our chief.
I sometimes think about the necessity to start a new religion or movement which can spread through the culture like a mind virus and uses evolutionary concepts to ‘hack’ our society. Not necessarily evolution itself but something that implements some of the mechanisms of evolution to improve our success.
Is the ultimate goal of your theory to reshape our society or form a new hierarchy that excludes the social parasites?
I'm talking only for men, I don't know how any of this works for the female mind.
Im not sure either and I have one. But clearly we need a strategy that includes females because they are at least half the problem. Females historically often defect to other cultures (i.e. Invaders) because they see increased reproductive success or status as a consequence of a defection. This is a totally valid strategy in evolution which seems shitty, but you can’t get to sentimental about it, you just have to offer something better than the other guy.
A key feature of the parasitic strategy is to view yourself as a chronic victim even in spite of being the exploiter of others. Apparently it really works. Jews do this. Gypsies do this. Alot of “narcissistic personalities” do this.
I think that judeo-psychology trains people to think like this. It trains people to look at their adversities or flaws and try to figure out how someone else ultimately is to blame. The consequence is to demand society care for you rather that to be a spartan and suck it up and not whine. Females are obviously particularly susceptible to this. Basically they are training people in jewish strategies. None of this engages winning circuitry.
So I think its safe to say that your training should seek to undue this SJW mindset that psychothereapy has wrought.
This will take a bit to process and respond to. A few points:
You filled out all the missing pieces. I had to re-write my post a bunch of times because I was getting into the weeds of the evolutionary reasoning, you nicely summarized every single point I would have wanted to bring up ... and then a few more.
Your point about loser think circuitry being necessary in a genetical homogenous society is probably correct. I had that point in an earlier draft becuase I think it is very important. My general feeling is if it exists there is usually a very good reason why it exists. Precisely as you said, you cannot have all males vying for the alpha spot, that is an insane proposition.
Great post on parasitic cultures. I just posted these two things:
https://poal.co/s/Opinion/364288
https://poal.co/s/Videos/363462
Somewhere along the way they went through an evolutionary funnel and their entire species became something else. Once you start to see the patterns, they are everywhere. Good call on Gypsies, precisely my thoughts as well.
Pay attention to the superman video, Epstein / Weinstein are NOT a accident.
- Your point on judeo-psychology basically explains communism, feminism, sjw nonsense and all the modern movements. Once you start to notice that all of the tactics in those movements are female social warfare tactics and you notice all of those movements are started by jews and then you run into the JLP clip where that jewish woman describes judaism as bizarro world matriarchy, all of a sudden the pieces just fit.
Christianity it self is a type of judaic parasitism in the similar vein. It dis-empowers the believer into a perpetual victim that is always ready to be abused.
Once you see all of those layers, all of a sudden you start to realize there is no such thing as conservatism vs leftism. All of those are arbitrary groupings of values that have over time been influenced, as you put it, by exogenous parasitic organisms.
Once you are there, you are basically ready to just accept that political / social value systems can only be thought of as and an ever extending set of values that extends out in rings as follows: individual, man / woman, man / woman / children, extended family, town, country. Something like that, I am sure that can be refined. I say that because in all of my travels I have NEVER met a consevative or a liberal. Every single person that I have ever met has a mix of all of the value systems necessary for them to complete the survival tasks required of them at every ring of the value system.
I have to jump out of this topic at this juncture, I have A LOT to write about this.
- I am in agreement that the primary tool set is evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology. Those are the only known tools that have both, retroactive explanatory power and predictive power.
After you have engaged with the material long enough, you start to see that that the human animal can be understood at the animal / species level the way we understand dogs, cats and horses. Horses have a very specific set of evolutionary psychology requirements and breaking a horse in is a very specific thing to the very nature of a horse. Training a dog and a cat are similar but also very different.
I think that because we are so close to the subject matter it is difficult to abstract out, but, humans aren't that complicated in my opinion.
- Have you started to notice the REMARKABLE narrative consistency our people speak in on this and other forums?
For example, everything that you wrote is just filling out the missing pieces of what I wrote? As if we are writing the same book?
Have you noticed that we can go to .win or here or wherever and start pulling in self consistent narrative written by our people? As if we are collectively writing different pages of a single book?
I don't think this is an accident.
I think our yearning for our own beleif systems, our own mythology, our own religious rites is DEEEEEEPLY programmed into our genetics.
I was watching Red Ice a while back Henrik and Lana were talking respectfully about Christianity (they are such an amazing example for our people) and were just making the point that Christianity is about the submissivness of the invidual to god while our ancient religious rites had nothing to do with that. Our ancient gods and religious rites dealt with our relationship with our enviornment, teaching our children and families and passing on information from one genreation to the next, facilitating our relationships to our prey and so forth.
In other words, I am not even sure that we need to call it a religion. I think we need to just bring our people together and let all of them just write out whatever this invisible narrative embedded in our dna might be. I have the following sentence running around in my head:
" I search for our ancient gods out in the tundra, for they have been asleep for far too long ....... I hear thunder out in the distance. "
I have no idea what it means, but I don't believe it is an accident. But it is the beginning of a mythological narrative that I feel is coming on and I am going to have to write it down.
And, if once we write out the mythologies embedded in our firmware and we find our gods awakened, what would they want of us?
It feels like the the initial guiding principles of our rekindled mythology would be something like the ancient rites of spring, where the focus is on training up our men and women in preparing for taking on vows and building families.
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