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I don't think the loyalty of the regime is the important part of this equation. If you have close to half a billion people who believe they are the same and share a collective fate, then they will act in their collective interest. The CCP just happens to be very good at conflating the party's interest with the people's. To the extent where they legitimately support the persecution of Uyghurs.

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I don't think the loyalty of the regime is the important part of this equation.

It is. Communist regimes are loyal only to their ruling elite. If an ethnic group grants them power then they'll keep that group around and give them preferential treatment. The moment that ceases to be the case they'll turn on them, because they have no core ethnic loyalty. A good example of this would be in the last days of the Ceaucescu regime when either he or his wife ordered the military to begin randomly assassinating ethnic romanians in order to scare them back into line.

If you have close to half a billion people who believe they are the same and share a collective fate, then they will act in their collective interest. The CCP just happens to be very good at conflating the party's interest with the people's. To the extent where they legitimately support the persecution of Uyghurs.

And that's fine as long as those two interests run side by side. The moment they don't Tiananmen square happens and you end up having to clean ethnic-han-mincemeat off your tank treads.

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It isn't a question of preferential treatment you silly goose? Try to apply for Chinese citizenship without being ethnically Han Chinese. By their standards, you probably don't cut it, and those are the standards that matter. Kill as many ethnic Han as you want if being Han is still a prerequisite for citizenship it's an ethnostate. Tiananmen isn't germane to the question.

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It isn't a question of preferential treatment you silly goose? Try to apply for Chinese citizenship without being ethnically Han Chinese.

Is that a rhetorical question? They recognise multiple "chinese" ethnic groups. They just give preferential treatment to the most loyal ones, which right now is the hans.

By their standards, you probably don't cut it, and those are the standards that matter. Kill as many ethnic Han as you want if being Han is still a prerequisite for citizenship it's an ethnostate.

It's not, and even if it were it doesn't demonstrate loyalty towards the hans on the part of the state.

Tiananmen isn't germane to the question.

I disagree. If a group can become class enemies who deserve death the moment the wind changes then the state has no loyalty to them. The loyalty model of China is purely one-way.

To the extent where they legitimately support the persecution of Uyghurs.

Uh, don't you?

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I honestly don't care one way or another. I don't live in China, I'm not Chinese.