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[–] [Sticky] 10 pts

We invaded Iraq over WMD's that didn't exist when our domestic security was under no threat. Ukraine becoming a pawn of the US and Europe is a domestic security threat for Russia. I still don't support what they are doing and think they could have handled this smarter, but our security apparatus in particular has no room to talk about anything.

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Best part has been Condoleezza Rice and a few other talking heads saying how the estimated 300 civilians killed in Ukraine to date is a war crime and completely unacceptable.

Er... The UN estimates 500,000 civilian deaths tied to Clinton's No-Fly and embargo (including an embargo of all medical aid) on Iraq alone. And that was followed by greatest hits like The War on Terror, which has been estimated to have cost another half million civilian deaths.

I'm not exactly a liberal - I have no problem with people getting killed who deserve it - but are these people really going to get up in front of a camera and bemoan 300 deaths when their civilian body count is in the millions...?

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Lest we forget Condi was shoe shopping while Katrina was happening, over 300 people died there and she is still gets to weigh in on this?

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I could think of one example where "6 million" of group j gets described as being way, way, way, more impactful than 20 million of people group r being killed.

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8 years of diplomacy and planning convinces me that Russia had no options left

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We invaded Iraq over WMD's that didn't exist when our domestic security was under no threat.

And no one was ever held accountable.

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You forgot Libya!

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Wasn't Libya more nato EU nations?

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Yes, but NATO does what the US says.

[–] [deleted] 4 pts

Do you wish for people to show more empathy to sandniggers than eastern europeans?

I get that this points out theirhypocrisy. But is it really in Poal's interest to shame people for not caring enough about muslims?

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The political opinions of the average poalr are fringe opinions, they certainly don't reflect the political opinions of the vast majority, very few centrists here in case you didn't notice. And there isn't much we can do about what the majority believes

Besides, people have zero empathy for muslims, let's get shit straight here. It's only when the tv starts a trend around it that they eventually start to suddenly follow the sympathy cause du jour, while they didn't give a shit about it 24h before... And the only people on which it has no effect, are people who categorically don't like browns or muslims in the first place, and there aren't that much people like that

We're really dealing with NPCs

So only leverage we can reasonably expect, can only happen within their own set of ideas/ideology, they aren't going to turn full 1488 fugget' bout it

In my worldview NPCs caring more about Ukraine than Islamic countries being bombed is a healthy response.

Ukrainians are Christians and they look white. I DO want them to care more about that, and not friggin shame them for it.

I don't care if the US bombs islamic countries. We're an Empire. Empires fighting savages, in particular those that commited acts of terrorism within our borders, is in my worldview normal and nothing to be ashamed of. But it's stupid to take the people you just bombed and make them citizens.

The issue is, that we've been shamed for being an empire and shamed for looking out for our own. If anything people have to be talked out of their shame. It's possible to do that without going full 14/88.

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We should care about tax dollars. We should care about our sons and daughters dying for this nonsense.

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Semi serious question:

What the shit is left to bomb in Somalia?

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goat fuckers

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Goat fuckers with weapons...

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I just want to say the meme warrior who started adding background pics or even photo pics of the tweeter. Is genius, so much better than just a screen cap.

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You forgot Yugoslavia in 1999, right in the middle of Europe.

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wait when did the US go to war in Somalia?

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We are bombing them at the moment. Why? I dont fucking know.

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currently are. doesn't matter if not declared or not.

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Bruh, the tv didn't tell us to care about those or Bruh, the tv told us we wuz killin' bad guys

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Imagine the narrative if zognald was still in office!

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Would it even had happened if he was?

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Ukraine is full of people, not shitskinned animals masquerading as people.

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Putin trying to keep it that way.