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Pineal Gland Discussion

Tl;Dr This is a discussion thread. If you don't want to read a lot it's probably not for you, but thank you for stopping by.

Pineal Gland General

Have you not heard of the pineal Gland? Do you not even Joe Rogan (dailystormer.name)?

The argument goes that the Pineal Gland is the part of the body that interfaces with the psychic or spiritual planes -- essentially the third eye or Ajna chakra in modern terms. However, most of our Pineal Glands are unnecessarily calcified, due to flouride exposure in our youth. If we could only decalcify that Pineal, we would be able to be more psychic and more spiritually connected. Some people recommend taking iodine to do just that or to counteract iodine deficiency related to fluoride intake. (pic8.co)

Skeptics assert the above is pseudoscientific, new age bullshit. And they apparently can get quite huffy about if on Q&A sites like Quora. 1 (quora.com) 2 (quora.com)

I can summarize their argument as the following: Flouride doesn't calcify. There is no evidence the Pineal Gland is supposed to perform any spiritual interfacing function, nor is there any evidence that flouride calcifies it and stops this function.

The skeptics arguments strike me as somewhat suspicious because of their tone (adopting a high academic lexicon to appear more intelligent and attempting to shame rather than simply correct the perceived inaccuracies , which I've often seen paired with other dubious viewpoints such as racial universalism, Holocaust trutherism, brexit remain camp, gender wage gap, etc.) and also because their dismissal of flouride as a calcifying agent seems like an overreach and possibly a unicorn truth that ignores the complex interaction of chemicals in the human body.

To wit, my dentist says we flouridate water because dietary flouride causes better calcification of the teeth (only in young people whose bodies are still developing; doesn't do anything for adults really). Whether flouride calcifies the teeth directly or through interactions with other calcifying agents shouldn't matter. The introduction of it to the developing human body eventually leads to calcification of the teeth, according to my dentist. I did not ask the dentist about the Pineal Gland because I assume they would have no opinion to offer.

Yet the skeptics of Pineal Gland calcification do raise an important question: If Pineal Gland calcification is a reality, what is the evidence for it?

Further: What is the evidence for the Pineal Gland's spiritual component or interactions? Is decalcification even possible and if so, through what means?

I'm going to be casually looking into this a little more tonight. Will post answers I find in comments. In the meantime it'd be cool if anyone who knows a little about it would weigh in.

Tl;Dr This is a discussion thread. If you don't want to read a lot it's probably not for you, but thank you for stopping by. #Pineal Gland General Have you not heard of the pineal Gland? Do you not even [Joe Rogan](https://dailystormer.name/joe-rogan-calls-in-sneaky-orthodox-jew-gives-him-two-hour-lecture-on-psychedelic-drugs/)? The argument goes that the Pineal Gland is the part of the body that interfaces with the psychic or spiritual planes -- essentially the third eye or Ajna chakra in modern terms. However, most of our Pineal Glands are unnecessarily calcified, due to flouride exposure in our youth. If we could only decalcify that Pineal, we would be able to be more psychic and more spiritually connected. Some people recommend taking iodine to do just that [or to counteract iodine deficiency related to fluoride intake.](https://pic8.co/sh/zfhhDk.png) Skeptics assert the above is pseudoscientific, new age bullshit. And they apparently can get quite huffy about if on Q&A sites like Quora. [1](https://www.quora.com/Is-it-actually-possible-to-decalcify-the-pineal-gland/answer/Mark-Abrahams-PhD-LMHC) [2](https://www.quora.com/Does-liquid-iodine-really-help-to-decalcify-the-pineal-gland-after-years-of-drinking-water-with-fluoride-in-it/answer/Gerry-Uswak) I can summarize their argument as the following: Flouride doesn't calcify. There is no evidence the Pineal Gland is supposed to perform any spiritual interfacing function, nor is there any evidence that flouride calcifies it and stops this function. The skeptics arguments strike me as somewhat suspicious because of their tone (adopting a high academic lexicon to appear more intelligent and attempting to shame rather than simply correct the perceived inaccuracies , which I've often seen paired with other dubious viewpoints such as racial universalism, Holocaust trutherism, brexit remain camp, gender wage gap, etc.) and also because their dismissal of flouride as a calcifying agent seems like an overreach and possibly a unicorn truth that ignores the complex interaction of chemicals in the human body. To wit, my dentist says we flouridate water because dietary flouride causes better calcification of the teeth (only in young people whose bodies are still developing; doesn't do anything for adults really). Whether flouride calcifies the teeth directly or through interactions with other calcifying agents shouldn't matter. The introduction of it to the developing human body eventually leads to calcification of the teeth, according to my dentist. I did not ask the dentist about the Pineal Gland because I assume they would have no opinion to offer. Yet the skeptics of Pineal Gland calcification do raise an important question: If Pineal Gland calcification is a reality, what is the evidence for it? Further: What is the evidence for the Pineal Gland's spiritual component or interactions? Is decalcification even possible and if so, through what means? I'm going to be casually looking into this a little more tonight. Will post answers I find in comments. In the meantime it'd be cool if anyone who knows a little about it would weigh in.

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I guess the main question would be how do you know? Did you just take someone's word for it that you need to do x and y to decalcify the pineal and it ended up working out? If there's no honest research out there then how did anyone come to figure out pineal calcification was bad in the first place?

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Did you just take someone's word for it that you need to do x and y to decalcify the pineal and it ended up working out?

More or less. But, in the beginning I only ever saw mention of the subject in more esoteric places or places that discussed what normies tend to call "paranormal". I eventually grew intrigued enough that I sought out certain people, people that proved competence to me in such a range of areas that I was entirely dumbfounded. These kinds of people know more than I know about any one subject, but in such a range of areas that it very seriously doesn't seem like they're real. The biggest hurdle for me in the beginning was taking in everything I was being told. Naturally, I'm extremely skeptical and so it took me a while to really trust what they said or try things out they suggested.

After seeing vague reference to some of the things they appeared to have deep insight with in quite a few places, I began just taking supplements in the beginning, stopped using fluoridated toothpaste and tried in other ways to decrease my exposure. After a while, I started to actually feel differences.They aren't all that noticeable at first, but once you really get in to it, meaningful differences arise.

It's my estimation at least a couple of these people have had information sources of the more secret variety, but I'm not sure how helpful speculating will end up being here, as I'm not sure the source of this info really matters so much as the result of knowing it.

Either way, what do you have to lose with taking a few supplements, switching tooth pastes, taking shorter showers, etc? This really isn't that much of a trade off to potentially have what others tend to vaguely describe as "superpowers".

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Definitely appreciate the info. I'm looking into ways to decrease my fluoride exposure for other reasons. I may consider looking into your supplement list as well.

What exactly are the superpowers you've seen in others or personally experienced? Even a phrase as simple as "being psychic" could include any number of actual abilities -- out of body travel, clairvoyance, medium abilities, telepathy, telekinesis, and probably a few others I didn't remember off the top of my head.

It sounds like you've seen some interesting things. Would be cool if you're able to make a few posts in /s/Odd about those experiences.

edit: or /s/occult, depending on where they fit

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Don't forget, I'm sort of new in this area, although it feels like from my perspective things have moved very quickly.

I should explain it more like this: certain things have been sort of exacerbated following my "enlightenment". I've always been able to "read people's thoughts" but that's more of an affinity I have with reading body languages and being able to notice contextual clues. Now it feels more like I can command someone's attention just by focusing my attention on them, stuff like that. Maybe I've always been like this, but I feel like I'm an extremely seductive person now (we don't need to enter in to that territory, though). I literally had a guy I met for the first time tell me yesterday that he felt like he's known me for years (after reading this over again, I feel like I should mention I'm both a man and not interested in men... lol). Sort of spooky...

I feel frequent rushes of empathy, have very frequent feelings of deja vu, I've been having wildly vivid dreams whereas I never really did before, I can feel the gaze of people, I can feel the proximity of other living creatures (making going outside especially at night sort of intense) etc.

Some of the things I've been informed of but haven't experienced are Astral Projection (the government has studied this EXTENSIVELY and there are very odd files about trips they've taken to other planets in this solar system through such means), these guys talk about using runes or totems (which still weirds me out), telepathy (I still think the proper frame of reference with this subject is popularly obscured), etc. It appears the meditative side of things is very important to them. I've seen mention plenty of times of the monks in Asia who's whole days are essentially just meditation. These men live in the astral for the most part, which is enlightening enough... but fucking think about that for a second. Think about what that means...

I know I'm about to go extremely deep and very quickly for most, but I've seen mention that all "spirits" in this plane are iterated until they "escape". These people have claimed before that entire civilizations had gotten so spiritually involved that they were able to escape this plane and all of those spirits are currently no longer here (Mayans specifically but also portions of Egyptians and similar peoples). They claim this stretches out to Mythological figures such as the prophets Soloman, Atlas, Prometheus, the Buddhas and more (I hope you guys aren't taking Christiantiy too seriously... because they think "Yeshua"/Jesus was a prophet too and that he was VERY WIDELY misunderstood on purpose) . But, I don't want to go too far with this and just make you guys think I'm that far in to this.

Just to be sure we're on the same page here, it's important to understand that being receptive to things you don't necessarily believe is important. As Aristotle said:

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

I'll never ask you to believe everything I tell you. Me explaining these things is half me wrestling with them. I love exploring ideas or different perspectives. Why not?