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[–] 8 pts

why don't they just ban them

The thing with opiates is they are a very useful type of drug. Pure opium is not that damaging compared to many other classes of drugs. In fact, pure opium is safer than Tylenol when taken continuously over the long term. Places where opium is available cheaply and in pure form (like Mongolia) have plenty of elderly addicts who have been using since their teens. Anyone who regularly used Tylenol for chronic pain is likely on the awaiting a liver transplant. The main problem with opiates is drug companies synthesizing and enhancing it (like fentanyl) and street level people adulterating it (like heroin).

Chronic pain can be massively debilitating. Giving someone a painkiller that doesn't wreck their body will sometimes allow them to recover and other time allow them to be functional for whatever life they still have left. Unfortunately, not everyone metabolizes opiates the same way, so some receive no pain relief from them and some others can become addicted very quickly.

As a society, we should try to minimize how many people are addicted or dependent on any substances. Unfortunately we have a thoroughly corrupt medical cartel operating in this country which is not concerned with our well being.

[–] 2 pts

Unfortunately, not everyone metabolizes opiates the same way, so some receive no pain relief from them and some others can become addicted very quickly.

If only racial DNA testing was allowed.

[–] 0 pt

I smoked opium a couple times when I was a kid. I found it to be quite "useful".

[–] 0 pt

I'll have to take your word for it. By "useful" do you mean as a pain reliever? Have you ever taking prescription versions of opoids? If so, how did it compare as far a pain relief goes?

[–] 0 pt

Sorry, I don't know. I was young and had no pain to relieve. As far as prescription versions go, do Percocet and Vicodin count? Because the high from this stuff was much more enjoyable.

...Well, what do you know? I guess I never really smoked opium after all. The stuff I smoked was called Red Rock Opium. I just looked it up and apparently it doesn't actually contain any opiates. That's interesting because the friend that brought it around became a heroin addict not long after that.

Nice! I'm slightly less degenerate than I thought.

[–] 0 pt

As someone who has been victimized by this medical cartel, is there a way I can protect myself from them when they have the backing of the police?

[–] 1 pt

Ask lots of questions and treat them like used car salesman. Doubt everything they say and assume they're just trying to make money off of you. As far a meds go, always ask for generics and be skeptical of anyone who insists you use a specific brand. If you have had success with a particular med, don't let them experiment on you by changing to a different one.

[–] 0 pt
[–] 1 pt

From the article:

biggest obstacle to the usefulness of opioids: euphoria

Judging from the article, I'm going to guess AT 121 should be included in all the other synthesized opiates and should be avoided. Doctors will happily put people on anti depressants which fry their liver and kidneys while also increasing the suicide risk. God forbid the pain killer makes you feel good as well for no extra cost. Considering how toxic many classes of painkillers are, the notion that opiods making you feel good is a terrible side effect is laughable and should demonstrate how safe they really are.

Also, "it is 100 times more potent than morphine for pain relief" seems like another red flag. You don't need particularly high doses of morphine to be effective (assuming it provides you relief). Extremely potent meds vastly increase the odds of overdose and complicate proper tapering for those who attempt to get off the medication.