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But the death rate went up 20% in one year. That just does not happen.

I think they are overdiagnosing cases, or at least they have been prior to dropping the PCR amplification cycles down to 28. By 10 or 20%, maybe more. I do not think the death count has been exagerated.

Covid may have been overdiagnosed in a few deaths but in general the death count has been UNDERESTIMATED. It did not make me happy to come to this conclusion. Only about 75% of the excess deaths in the US were labeled as covid. I believe even more deaths from covid occured in nursing homes under lockdown and that these deaths were recategorized as something else plausible. The way (((nursing home))) financing is run in this country, nursing homes take the inheritance of residents after they die, whether they live a long time or not. They are incentivized to kill their residents. But not if they are found incompetent for spreading covid. I believe nursing homes hid about 150,000 deaths from covid while quarantining old people.

The US had half a million too many deaths over ~12 months and only 75% of them were explained as covid deaths. NO ONE has given any explanation for these deaths. They appear to be typical “old people” deaths. But cardiac deaths don’t suddenly surge by 100,000 in a year for no reason, you know?

I believe they have tricked us in to arguing that covid deaths were not that bad, in order to regain our freedom, while they were secretly killing off our elderly in nursing homes.

They have incentivized minimizing covid and we have gone along.

This is a debate that requires a little nuance. Covid is not that bad in younger and middle aged people and can be treated with antivirals. But its about 50x more lethal in the elderly, and I cant believe the callousness Ive seen from conservatives about those people dying in droves from this thing. It does not appear as if our side can be simultaneously anti-lockdown and anti-vaccine but still be seriously concerned about the several million old people that have been killed unnecessarily viciously by the medical establishment and government that caused this disease and exacerbated it. That just seems to be too complicated a position to have around here. I have gotten continuously pummeled on here for pointing out that old people are being killed.

Anyway sorry for the rant. If the death counts were normal I would say they are miscategorizing deaths. But how else can you explain such a massive uptick? And it would seem to be consistent with the fact that several old relatively healthy people that I know suddenly died of a flu that they are calling covid.

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But the death rate went up 20% in one year. That just does not happen.

We don't have lockdowns every year. Dunno about where you live but over here they shut down all kinds of essential medical services, like cancer patients couldn't get treatment because of the "dangers" of the wuflu, not to mention other hilarious policy decisions like putting flu patients in nursing homes during flu season (wtf??). And that's not even counting suicides.

The US had half a million too many deaths over ~12 months and only 75% of them were explained as covid deaths. NO ONE has given any explanation for these deaths. They appear to be typical “old people” deaths. But cardiac deaths don’t suddenly surge by 100,000 in a year for no reason, you know?

Cut people off from their livelyhoods and most forms of excercise and they're going to get fat. Some of them may have been toeing the beetus line already.

This is a debate that requires a little nuance. Covid is not that bad in younger and middle aged people and can be treated with antivirals.

Why do we even need antivirals? If the casedemic is to be believed the majority of people who catch it don't even notice.

But its about 50x more lethal in the elderly, and I cant believe the callousness Ive seen from conservatives about those people dying in droves from this thing.

The flu is lethal to elderly people, that's why they restrict nursing homes during flu season and recommend flu vaccines. All of the measures they normally take to deal with flu season could have been applied, instead they did the opposite and deliberately made nursing homes more dangerous by using them as overflow for covid wards.

Anyway sorry for the rant. If the death counts were normal I would say they are miscategorizing deaths. But how else can you explain such a massive uptick? And it would seem to be consistent with the fact that several old relatively healthy people that I know suddenly died of a flu that they are calling covid.

See above.

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Death rates went up dramatically last march. Some months they were up 40%. My state had a 30% increase in deaths over 12 months. About half of that excess death occured in the month of April 2020. You are telling me that a huge amount of people in my state died within the first 6 weeks of lockdown ?

The chinese have been harvesting exotic corona viruses from the bat population for 20 years because they saw the potential of sars as a weapon. This virus is a weaponized form of the cold and it replicates much faster than cold and flu because of that spike protein. Read the Wuhan studies. They were intentionally building viruses for “aggressiveness”.

What happens when you have a cold virus that can infect and replicate much faster than the typical cold or flu virus? When they swab covid patient’s noses they find thousands or millions of times more virus than you would find in the common cold or flu. That is why it’s deadly.

In people that have young aggressive immune systems and in people that only inhale small amounts of virus, the immune system wipes out the virus early on.

But when people have old slow immune systems or when they inhale large quantities of virus, the exponential growth of the virus outpaces the immune system. That is when people get high viral loads and develop severe form covid.

You could kill a healthy 20 year old if you made him inhale enough of this virus. The “death equation” involves a rather linear function of your immune system build up ( which will vary by age/health) and an exponential growth curve of the virus, given some initial viral load at exposure. Its is a math problem. That is why there are such variable outcomes.

I have learned this about viral infections over the last year and I want people here to understand this. It math.

Antivirals slow the growth of the virus. This is a new factor in the equation. I think it is definitely a good idea to get antivirals in advance if you are over 40, even if you are vaccinated. I don’t know if you can buy ivermectin for horses over the internet in your country but its a good idea to have it. There are other good antivirals that will work like HCQ or doxycycline or azithromycin if you can get them. Antivirals will prevent severe covid if they are given soon after symptoms appear.

If a “pro-ADE” variant develops, alot of younger people who got the vaccine will get sicker than if they had never been vaccinated. Sicker. Unvaccinated people will not be particularly susceptible to this strain. The establishment will say it is a more virulent strain. But in fact it will be a strain that they encouraged to evolve with their retarded vaccination strategy. But ivermectin and other antivirals will still work on all these people.

Old people don’t have to die of the flu every year in droves. Nursing homes and medical establishments let this happen to get rid of old people using up state money. They cured the cold and the flu years ago.

They cured the cold and flu years ago.

Most old people who get the cold/flu can be cured if they get antivirals early. Its all the same antivirals that work on covid. A lot of antimalarials and antibiotics. They would just rather push the flu vax on people and keep them in the dark.

They’ve been doing the same thing with the flu as with covid for years, just on a slightly smaller scale. They love the flu. Its $$$ making fear porn and it gets rid of old people.

We don’t have to be afraid and paranoid. If everyone is properly armed with antivirals and understands how the infection works, only a very small portion of old people are at risk of dying and they can be put on antiviral prophylaxis.

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Hey just got your message. Just reached level one on my account after about 2 weeks in the penalty box. Still cant send messages. Apologies for that wall-o-text, I just want to tell people what I have learned.

Maybe I will spend more time at xyz if you are over there. Ive been bouncing around on a couple different sites besides this one. He is really a prick. He just tacked on another -20 pts the other day for no reason that I can think of. He’s got some serious personality red flags. Which means your info is not safe— not like it ever is, but his vindictiveness is an added concern.

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I was wondering where your suspicious behaviour tag went.

I think he probably has good intentions overall, but he doesn't seem in control of his inner micromanager.

See you over there.