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What the fake climatologists didn't know or didn't want people to know is that there is such a thing as negative feedback. More CO2 does mean more insulating properties and retention of heat but it also means a warmer world creates more evaporation which leads to greater snowfall in northern climates which has a cooling effect as more heat is reflected back into space. This fear mongering about runaway global warming is just garbage. Also, more CO2 means plants can grow better in more extreme climates with less water because they don't lose as much to evaporation when they are breathing. Basically, negative feedback with everything that goes with it means a more stable climate rather than extremes in climate change. They're selling a fake computer model that doesn't hold up to real world observations.

Also, a greening Earth means an Earth that is fixing atmospheric carbon into cellulose. And more plants means more food for the biosphere.

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True. One of my interests is cacti. We could significantly improve desert areas by massive planting of desert plants.

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Ding ding ding Bingo. Problem is these idiots want to geoengineer to reduce temps, which hinders proper evaporation. Been saying for years that evaporation rates have gone through the floor. Pollutants in the atmosphere via geoengineering or testing etc are making it so water vapor can’t fall properly as rain until it reaches critical mass or accelerant particle is added... recipe for drought then flooding.... But yeah hot equals evaporation equals snow equals reflection Etc

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We have two areas in California that kind of bear out the proof of water vapor being an insulator to moderate climate.

We have the Central Valley stretching from Redding all the way down to the pass over The Grapevine pass and Imperial Valley with the Salton Sea at it's lowest spot.

Before the extensive agriculture in those two areas the desert nights were cold even when the days were blistering hot. This is due to the dry air not being able to hold heat as it radiates back into space.

Now, those areas around agriculture have much moister nights so the heat dissipates much more slowly at night and builds up slower during the day. CO2 is a much smaller percentage of this mix so it's mostly water vapor that is insulating the heat and moderating the local climate.

This is something you really don't need sensitive equipment to know about as you can simply drive through these areas and notice the difference. I can clearly remember camping out in the Central Valley as a child when my Grandfather took me there to set out bee apiaries. I call it camping not because that's actually what we were doing. Basically, Grandpa would drive up there with a load of bees and kick my brother and I out of the truck to sleep out on the ground until near sunrise. It was cold and miserable and then by the time the sun came up and the day was truly started the temps would heat up to around 120 degrees during the day. Same for Imperial Valley but today as agriculture has greatly expanded since I was a kid you can drop down out of the desert on I10 and feel the heat and moisture once you drop down into the low farm areas.

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Evaporation has a really huge effect on temp, indeed. Has a much higher effect than carbon dioxide, that’s for damned sure. I wish we would create more inland lakes to help our climate in the US. I heard one guy up for governor in Utah wanted to build hydroelectric pumps to refill old salk lakes- lower dust pollution and increase local habitability, while creating green power while other systems are offline... pumps would run when power excesses are had, and would allow flow downhill at night when solar farms are not working. Sometimes I wish the sahara got its old sea back. Imagine the increased habitability there? And increased precipitation for downwind mountain ranges.... ah well There a much bigger environmental no nos than carbon emissions, such as the disappearance of bugs, Amphibians etc., the pollution of water with harder to remove substances (endocrine disruptors that affect frogs included), Disruption of aquifers etc due to neglect by 3rd party environmental agencies etc. Phosphate fertilizer runoff, the collapse of Florida due to the aluminum industry byproducts, cafos that are irresponsible, the list goes on.... so many examples of real world issues that are damaging and preventable. Epa literally prevents responsible private companies from dredging and removIng mercury from streams (so they can do it instead and monopolize gold panning) in california. Shit like this not being talked about enough just makes me see it is all a cash grab and attempt to restrict the mobility of class.

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This is hardly news, wtf do you think happens in greenhouses? C02 plus heat equals more plant growth. Satallite images have shown a greening for ages.

The argument is supposed to be it gets too hot in regions that are already hot, although you would think the sahara would qualify for that.

Another excuse they have against bumber crop yeilds is the quality goes down or some such shit.

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The argument is supposed to be it gets too hot in regions that are already hot

No, the argument is that there is increased entropy (heat) in the closed system we call the troposphere. That doesn't mean hot areas are hotter. It just means there is more energy in the system, which can affect evaporation rates, lapse rates, wind, humidity, and precipitation. Just look at what effects El Nino has around the globe just because the eastern Pacific Ocean warms by 4°C.

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Another excuse they have against bumber crop yeilds is the quality goes down or some such shit.

I've heard this. Plant are about thirty percent ed carbs than they were a century ago. But proteinand mineral content did not rise to match. This could help explain the global rise of obesity.

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they never argue the syria will be 130 degrees in 10 years. they know if they make this the argument no one will care

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The real problem is the massive amount of pollution. We are trashing the world with plastic at an incredible rate and Fukushima is still spewing radiation into the pacific.

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Coca-Cola, Pepsi and Nestlé named top plastic polluters for third year in a row.

https://archive.is/l2n9R#selection-801.0-801.79

10 Major Companies Responsible for Deforestation

https://archive.is/dn9rk

Does the Amazon rainforest emit more greenhouse gases than it absorbs?

“Cutting the forest is interfering with its carbon uptake; that’s a problem".

https://archive.is/Nr5XC#selection-651.0-651.77

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An Inconvenient Truth gets funnier and funnier each day.

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Almost like plants love extra carbon dioxide.

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Almost like plants love extra carbon dioxide.

It's got what plants crave

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I’m a tree. It’s ok.

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Based and Chlorophyllpilled.

Hippy: I'll tie my 100 day unwashed body and hair to your bark to show corporate men in suits that I really care that they should really care.

Tree: I've been here for 100 years.

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greenhouses by co2 machines...

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They'll just say it's because all the wind farms and solar panels. We're dealing with some of the most dishonest people there are afterall.

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At least OP fixed it. A+, and with the archive!

CO2 is used for photosynthesis of the plants. What exactly is the problem of the nature making use of our waste product?

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We are nature. A cog in the machine. It is functioning correctly.

I beg to differ on being a cog in the machine. We have merely borrowed the Earth's materials to suit our needs, and naturally everything will be recycled by the Earth. But we are not just meat and bones. The soul has come from the ethereal plane that cannot be seen with naked eyes. It is only through repeated propaganda from the media that we have convinced ourselves to be nothing but insignificant objects. But we are something greater than what you and I can possibly imagine.

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Sure. But nature is not limited to this planet. We may possibly be part of something higher yet everything is in the same sandbox.

I have never seen real evidence that we are super ultra duper special. Aside from my own consciousness and that of others, including other animals.

We are pretty special on this planet.

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more co2 grows more trees in a year than humans could ever hope to plant in a century.

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Carbon is plant food. More carbon = more plants.

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The other side of global warming they never talk about is that certain areas of the world will become more hospitable and crop yields will increase. Yes, people living on tropical islands, the immediate seacoasts, and in areas that already cannot be inhabited without AC are in trouble.

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