>>We disagree because all views are based on self interest and our situations differ. Precisely why I gave up on justifications, legal or otherwise And yeah we stole it, or not, and it's completely irrelevant in the end This land is ours, end of story, there's no further debate, whether you're israeli, european, south african, palestinian, it's the same in the end This land is ours It's ours as long we can keep it, that's the only truth in the end And it's a fancy way of saying, how many of "you/us" are willing to die fighting to keep that land, and for how long At the end of the day it's all that matters, because that's what shapes reality, the rest is literature