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All true

I would add that it is a new pile of fresh bugs and troubles

I am currently playing with piene-phone, the effort to rewrite working stuff (X11, init) is staggering, with JUNK results

Yes, it is a strategy to never have something good on linux

Paid by the usual (((microsoft)))

NOTE: You should consider adding your reference to https://nosystemd.org/

Thank you, very informative website you showed me. Very much appreciated. I wonder how many systems will get encrypted when they decide to do a russian/chinese attack like we won't know who is really behind it as in the ones that made the generic parts of the system that are hackable by design. I've been thinking of bsd or similar for a while and this read just made me realize it may be time right now to do that so my system is at least not a brick when they decide to fuck everyone up the network ass.

OMG and unforeseen incident "yeah unforeseen by the unaware users of SystemD is the part they don't make clear"

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Look into Devuan.

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What distro should one use?

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@privacy_first above provided a link to distros without systemd.

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I wonder if there's any threat of Red Heat doing some fuckery with their licenses in the future and then they start suing everybody.

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I'm torn about Lennart Poettering. One the one hand he's the idiot that created PulseAudio and SystemD, but then again he's just a brainless slave to his corporate master Red Hat.

And then we have all of the distros that, when given the choice to remain with sysv or go with other alternatives, willingly choose to move to systemd.

So... basically everybody is an idiot. Everwhere.

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Pottering has a strange project background. As an example, he started with Gnome using CORBA for distributed components. He insisted on writing his own agent and tooling. He announced it was impossible because performance was impossible and latency too high. Never mind there were other implementations which were orders of magnitude faster than his implementation. At the time, researchers were using CORBA for real time avionics and other hard real time tasks. Completely destroying his argument. And he knew this. Apparently button clicking on a desktop is more taxing than real time avionics on low end embedded hardware (in comparison to desktops).

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's a CIA plant.

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Interesting. I've read that microsoft has a BIG hand in systemd and produces the most current Linux code.