New borderline personality disorder intervention less intensive, works for most

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Gotcha. At some point you have to consider cutting your losses.

Controlling environment is key. The first step is to eliminate all the problem people who cause triggering. If you are with someone who has BPD and you intend on staying with them, you are going to have to cut out a lot of people and usually that has to start with the BPD person's family who caused the problem in the first place. It takes a few years of off gassing after that to be in a good place. I'd say about 3 years.

Keep all narcissists away from your BPD person. They are triggering. If you are a BPD person's "safe person" you are going to get the blunt end of the triggering because they would rather not blow up on a stranger or acquaintance.

I recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/POWER-Surviving-Narcissistic-Collection-Narcissism/dp/1945796324

In dealing with narcissists, which are almost certainly the source of the BPD, start treating them like emotional retards... because they are. The lack of empathy makes them easy to deal with once you understand it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/7pje8n/neutralizing_the_poison/

Having the tools to deal with conflict is what BPD people need to start with. Also, in dealing with a BPD person, who will have inherited narc traits, you will have to use the same conflict resolution skills on them. This means your primary responsibility will be staying calm, cool and collected and not taking the emotional bait.

BPD people NEED to be sober. If you are living with this person, you will have to practice sobriety, as well. Don't be under the influence of anything around them because it triggers them in ways that they won't even understand. Especially alcohol and cocaine.ESPECIALLY ALCOHOL AND COCAINE.

Think of BPD as mild multiple personality disorder. You are going to have to find the triggers that keep the "real" person around. When in conflict you can, potentially, summon the real person back. Walking out and leaving until the real person returns is usually going to be your only option until you get your head around how it works.

You will also have to identify the triggers that summon the bad version and avoid them like the plague. This will usually be abandonment (a double edged sword when you need to walk away from the conflict), sarcasm and criticism... even joking mild criticism. And, of course, alcohol and cocaine will almost always summon the wrong person.

Without knowing many more details, I would say this is where you start, since it seems you are looking for answers. I studied neuroscience, so this area is along my line of expertise. I've also had to deal with rabid narcissists and have learned how to tell the difference between a true narc and someone who was just raised in a narc household who inherited narc traits.

Gotcha. At some point you have to consider cutting your losses. Controlling environment is key. The first step is to eliminate all the problem people who cause triggering. If you are with someone who has BPD and you intend on staying with them, you are going to have to cut out a lot of people and usually that has to start with the BPD person's family who caused the problem in the first place. It takes a few years of off gassing after that to be in a good place. I'd say about 3 years. Keep all narcissists away from your BPD person. They are triggering. If you are a BPD person's "safe person" you are going to get the blunt end of the triggering because they would rather not blow up on a stranger or acquaintance. I recommend this book: https://www.amazon.com/POWER-Surviving-Narcissistic-Collection-Narcissism/dp/1945796324 In dealing with narcissists, which are almost certainly the source of the BPD, start treating them like emotional retards... because they are. The lack of empathy makes them easy to deal with once you understand it. https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/comments/7pje8n/neutralizing_the_poison/ Having the tools to deal with conflict is what BPD people need to start with. Also, in dealing with a BPD person, who will have inherited narc traits, you will have to use the same conflict resolution skills on them. This means your primary responsibility will be staying calm, cool and collected and not taking the emotional bait. BPD people NEED to be sober. If you are living with this person, you will have to practice sobriety, as well. Don't be under the influence of anything around them because it triggers them in ways that they won't even understand. Especially alcohol and cocaine.*ESPECIALLY ALCOHOL AND COCAINE.* Think of BPD as mild multiple personality disorder. You are going to have to find the triggers that keep the "real" person around. When in conflict you can, potentially, summon the real person back. Walking out and leaving until the real person returns is usually going to be your only option until you get your head around how it works. You will also have to identify the triggers that summon the bad version and avoid them like the plague. This will usually be abandonment (a double edged sword when you need to walk away from the conflict), sarcasm and criticism... even joking mild criticism. And, of course, alcohol and cocaine will almost always summon the wrong person. Without knowing many more details, I would say this is where you start, since it seems you are looking for answers. I studied neuroscience, so this area is along my line of expertise. I've also had to deal with rabid narcissists and have learned how to tell the difference between a true narc and someone who was just raised in a narc household who inherited narc traits.

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thanks for the info buddy.

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Obviously, all of that is easier said than done.

BPD has kind of a specific neurochemical cascade that isn't like other disorders. Once the chain reaction starts, it is hard to reverse. It usually just needs time to die down.

It can seem like Bipolar, but the swings don't go one way... essentially several parts of the mind are pulled in several directions in that the activations in the brain are not "polar" but scattered. This is why treatments for Bipolar will not work.

Koenigsberg found that when people with BPD attempted to control and reduce their reactions to disturbing emotional scenes, the anterior cingulate cortex and intraparetical sulci areas of the brain that are active in healthy people under the same conditions remained inactive in the BPD patients.

“This research shows that BPD patients are not able to use those parts of the brain that healthy people use to help regulate their emotions,” said Dr. Koenigsberg.

The main point of interest is that BPD sufferers cannot self regulate. The only way to achieve regulation is through controlling the environment and establish healthy physical and emotional patterns that reinforce "normal" set points. Structure. Routine. These are imperative for BPD sufferers because it will give them the neural reprogramming needed to start self regulating... but it takes years. Also, old age in all people results in less less neurochemical storms, so symptoms generally lessen with age.

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you are very knowledgeable. thanks buddy

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