(((French Resistance)))
Plenty of them came back from the U.S. to torture and murder POWs and German citizens.
Yep.
Every German female 8-80 was raped at least once after the war in a systematic form of retribution, by Russian and US troops. The bad guys won again.
My dad was captured at the Battle of the Bulge and taken to stalag 13 in Germany. At the end of the war Patton tried to liberate the camp because his son-in-law was there but the first attempt failed. My dad escaped and was recaptured with a couple other guys. Soldiers were lining them up for a firing squad and an SS officer ("they were the worst of the worst") intervened and told them to stand down. They weren't happy and a soldier stood up to him. The officer took of his white glove "one finger at a time, like this...." and slapped the soldier across the face with it and said "You will obey me. The war is over, there's been enough killing". Short version of a true story.
Don't get me wrong, the Germans were ruthless (as they should have been they were fighting for their lives,) but they also seemed to understand that there were protocols that had to be followed. Perhaps I'm just reading too much into it, but thanks for that feet on the ground account.
Wow that's a helluva story for the grandkids
For sure! He never talked about it when we were kids but I asked him later in life and wrote it all down. After they escaped he and a few others took refuge in a small shack. A young boy around 12 or 13 spotted them. They knew he'd report them but they weren't gonna go after a kid.
Dad was smart. While at stalag 13 he spoke French and asked German farmers on the other side of the fence who spoke French if he could have the weeds they were pulling from the fields. The fresh dandelion greens were a treat for him and the other POW's to supplement the meager gruel. "If a horse died there might be meat in it".
Amazing stuff.
Every French person I’ve known had parents or grand parents in the Resistance. I’ve never met a French person whose relatives were collaborators
Most were "in between" during the war, few took an active role in the resistance it wasn't exactly a full time job for everybody, for many it was casual like you saw something you say nothing and that's about it. Quite a few hid jewish families fleeing nazis, and there weren't much active collaborators, I mean people that were not forced to collaborate but did and big time, civilians typically, there were but for most it was casual also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Resistance
>The Resistance's men and women came from many different parts of French society, including émigrés, academics, students, aristocrats, conservative Roman Catholics (including clergy), Protestants, Jews, Muslims, liberals, anarchists, communists, and some fascists. The number of French people participating in the organized resistance is estimated at from one to three percent of the total population.[4] There were around 100,000 fighters in June 1944. By October 1944, the FFI had grown to 400,000 members.[9] Although the amalgamation of the FFI was sometimes fraught with political difficulties, it was ultimately successful, and allowed France to rebuild the fourth-largest army in the European theatre (1.2 million men) by VE Day in May 1945.[10]
Most collaborators were in for personal profit, not necessarily for ideological reasons, the charlemagne division is an entire different story https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_Charlemagne it was very ideologically motivated, they weren't exactly in just to turn a profit, obviously, 7,340 men
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milice#Membership
>The Milice Française (French Militia), generally called la Milice (literally the militia; French pronunciation: [milis]), was a political paramilitary organization created on 30 January 1943 by the Vichy regime (with German aid) to help fight against the French Resistance during World War II. The Milice's formal head was Prime Minister Pierre Laval, although its chief of operations and de facto leader was Secretary General Joseph Darnand. It participated in summary executions and assassinations, helping to round up Jews and résistants in France for deportation. It was the successor to Darnand's Service d'ordre légionnaire (SOL) militia. The Milice was the Vichy regime's most extreme manifestation of fascism. Ultimately, Darnand envisaged the Milice as a fascist single party political movement for the French state.[1] Black-and-white photo of men in uniform with guns The Milice frequently used torture to extract information or confessions from those whom they interrogated. The French Resistance considered the Milice more dangerous than the Gestapo and SS because they were native Frenchmen who understood local dialects fluently, had extensive knowledge of the towns and countryside, and knew local people and informants.[2][3] Official figures are difficult to obtain, but several historians including Julian T. Jackson estimate that the Milice's membership reached 25,000–30,000 by 1944.
And yes at the end of the war, everybody was in the resistance, casual collaborators included lol, since day1 of course! Undercover and shhheeeeeeeeeiiitttt...
I would even go as far as saying that, the most vocal post war leftist calling everybody a collaborator were more often than not big time casual collaborators themselves, they just never took a big role and didn't get caught post war... And as a way to shield themselves from accusations they became "public inquisitors"...
Lol, and several months before that - they were all fervent goose-stepping supporters of the Vichy regime.
While you would have been what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Service_du_travail_obligatoire
>A total of 600,000 to 650,000 French workers were sent to Germany between June 1942 and July 1944. France was the third largest forced labor provider, after the USSR and Poland, and was the country that provided the largest number of skilled workers. 250,000 POWs also had to work for the Reich from 1943 onwards, having been "transformed", voluntarily or involuntarily, into civilian workers.
It's all fun and games until it's your turn, then you change your fucking mind
Not my fault your grandparents switched sides and helped turn France into 'Le Eurasian melting pot' - His name was probably 'Phillipe Phillope' ?/ EDIT: Your link is as bad as an Auschwitz joo complaining about having to put in a decent day's work.
I thought Eisenhower ran the rhine meadow death camps
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