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TANSTAAFL kids.

TANSTAAFL kids.

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[–] • 4 pts

Once cut a major artery in my finger. I was forced to wait in the lobby, no triage, for 4 hours. They only let me get looked at when I stopped holding my finger tightly and ended up bleeding everywhere only then did they give a shit. Suffered permanent nerve damage for it.

Broke my leg, horribly, my foot was literally sitting on backwards. Tibia was shattered. They took 18 hours to look at it, because I was, "not a concerning situation."

Intracranial vasculitis, a disease that killed my mother, cannot be treated in Canada. The treatment costs 20,000 CAD. It exists, it is a cure. It cannot be provided without a 100 percent confirmation of the infection, which requires a live brain tissue sample via biopsy. Which can kill the patient. So no doctor will do the biopsy, they refuse. So the patient dies.

That is Canadian health care.

[–] • 5 pts (edited )

Under the British NHS guidelines, if you need dialysis for your kidneys, they cut you off when you turn 45 years old. Then they just cut you off. That's it. No more of the one thing that you absolutely need to stay alive.

So what are you supposed to do? Just go home and die quietly without being too much of a bother, prole.

But that's okay. Because it's "free", right?

[–] • 0 pt

Suffered permanent nerve damage for it.

You don't suffer nerve damage from blood loss in your finger. If you suffered nerve damage, it was from the trauma that caused the injury to begin with or it was from you cutting the circulation off to the finger for too long of a time.

Also, did your mother have lupus and did she have Secondary CNS Vasculitis?

[–] • 1 pt

cutting the circulation off to the finger for too long of a time.

Correct. Four hours is fucking outrageous amount of time for a finger to be blue from lack of blood.

To be truthful, it has been a decade, I do not recall much of the details given by the doctors which fucked it all up. Just those bits of information.

[–] • 1 pt

any system you chose needs some functioning brain

private healthcare is broke if you cannot "complain" about wasted money. NO, your insurance will NOT complain, they will just raise your payment.

public healthcare is broke if nobody look after the books, and they need to be able to FIRE hospital managers for idiotic decisions

the issue is that we stopped natural selection and we are full of idiots in control

natural selection will be back with a vengeance

[–] • 1 pt

cant go bankrupt from medical bills though

[–] • 4 pts (edited )

Maybe not. But you can die laying in the hallway, waiting for treatment. Or at home waiting for 6 months to see the cancer specialist who then tells you it's too late to treat you. If only you could have gotten in 6 months ago...

"Free" healthcare always, without exception, devolves into a "Two-tiered" healthcare system. If you have money, you get the private clinics and the best doctors and immediate treatment. If you rely on the "free care", meant for the peasants, it means rationing. Of everything. You get the long waits, etc. Even it it isn't designed to speed up your death, that is the effect it has.

Help put it into perspective for you. There are more MRI machines just in the city of Minneapolis alone, than there are in all of Canada. Need an MRI? Sure. Hey, it's free, right? Just come back in a year. We'll fix you right up.

It's easier and quicker to get your dog treated for cancer in Canada than it is a human being.

[–] • 0 pt

I don't know a single Canadian who does this.

This is mostly a strawman.

I'll tell you what Canadians tell me: seeing your primary care physician is leagues better in Canada than the US. Much better. Anything behind primary care is leagues worse, for the most part.

Funny that: reality is more nuanced than a binary "this or that." It's never as simple as the strawman Canadian raving about their perfect healthcare system or the conservatard raving about how shitty Canadian healthcare is.

[–] • 1 pt

How do Canadians know how easy it is to see an American primary physician?

[–] • 0 pt

If you think a bit, you can figure it out.

How do I, an American, know what Canadians think about their healthcare vs. ours?

[–] • 0 pt

They don't. It's easy to see a doctor in the US. You call and schedule an appointment.

[–] • 0 pt

I know. Saturday I called and today i scheduled for tomorrow. Fairly easy.

[–] • 0 pt

We've had the same family doctor for over 18 years. We schedule appointments for regular stuff sure, but if I call up and say, "Doc, I think I need to see you right away." He says, "Sure, come on in." He already knows it's about a 15 minute drive from my place to his office and I just walk right in. Nothing beats that kind of long-term personal relationship.