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I’m thinking of picking up a pre-built PC since this one even with a new SSD is still slow and parts are so hard to find right now or are being price gouged. I can get the same setup prebuilt for almost the same price as building it myself.

I can go with one company that only uses the Nvidia RTX 3080/3090

Or a different one that’s uses the AMD RX 6800 XT/6900

I’ve read both the 3090 and 6900 are more work station cards so I’m not going to spend the extra on those and the 6800 is at most 10% slower then the 6900 and in some tests the 6800 beats it.

I’m leaning towards the 6800, does anyone have real life experience with it instead of just review sites or experience with the 3080?

Thanks.

I’m thinking of picking up a pre-built PC since this one even with a new SSD is still slow and parts are so hard to find right now or are being price gouged. I can get the same setup prebuilt for almost the same price as building it myself. I can go with one company that only uses the Nvidia RTX 3080/3090 Or a different one that’s uses the AMD RX 6800 XT/6900 I’ve read both the 3090 and 6900 are more work station cards so I’m not going to spend the extra on those and the 6800 is at most 10% slower then the 6900 and in some tests the 6800 beats it. I’m leaning towards the 6800, does anyone have real life experience with it instead of just review sites or experience with the 3080? Thanks.

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Be careful with prebuilts, you can't replace parts on those down the line for the most part, so you'll have to shell out for a new computer anyway.

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The one company does custom, you can send it back or they’ll “walk you through” how to upgrade a part.

My brother used to buy from them and upgraded stuff all the time it’s when he found out how much I paid for mine that he started to have me build them.

Then this last time he went with Alienware lol. No idea why. They’re only slightly cheaper then the custom place that’s semi local but whatever he had constant problems from some small special case and everything overheating even though it was all water cooled or something.

Here's the main consideration: Proprietary API features. NVidia pays / partners with many game makers to make sure they use NVidia-specific features, rather than the open standard feature, for things like ray tracing, texture compression, etc. So in many games, for it to 'look its best', you're required to have an nvidia card, as AMD sticks with supporting the open standard, rather than the proprietary.

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That’s why I’ve always tried to stick with AMD, I hate proprietary crap and companies that dump money into it trying to stay ahead, but game studios are greedy and will take the cash.

I would love for the game studios to say nope, we’re only using open standards and you’re out of luck, put out a card that doesn’t use 500 watts at a reasonable price and needs to compete fairly with open standards.

It’s reminds me too much of big tech with their monopolies silencing people unless you conform to their narrative and only being able to post on sites like poal if you disagree.

Amd is the poal of the gaming world lol.

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It's kind of shitty, but it is a good reason to stick with Nvidia.

At the end of the day, I want to install and play, not have to find work arounds or mess with settings to make games run correctly. I'm willing to drop a bit extra on a card to have something run out of the box.

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You want to look into ray tracing and DLSS. If those are important to you, go with the 30xx series. If not, the 6000 series will be fine. 3090 is about 20% Faster for gaming than the 3080, but at $800 more.

The 3080Ti is likely coming out soon, so that's something to consider. The other thing is availability, good luck finding anything anywhere right now.

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Yeah everything is out or being price gouged by third party sellers that’s why I mentioned I was going to go prebuilt and was deciding on the company to go with.

At present it’s almost the same price to buy prebuilt vs build your own. I hate using third party sellers.

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Every time I read your name the song plays in my head, which is funny because it came out a decade before I was even born.

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now you understand how the name came about.

I needed an alt years ago, couldn’t think of anything that wouldn’t give me away and I was stuck trying to create one.

I had just finished watching “summer of sam”(had to look that up, I always think it’s studio 54) and the song was stuck in my head and while being stuck for a name and a song stuck in my head. I finally went with the song stuck in my head.

Enjoy the song in you’re head. I prefer their live version now lol.

I have used a 3080 regularly and have a friend with a 6800xt. After comparing the two, its really up to... do you EVER want to use RTX? and do you ever plan to use the features nvidia provides (like rtx voice, nvenc encoding, etc). They are quite similar in power when it comes to non-rtx loads. Personally, I prefer the 3080 because of the extra features and the very small price difference isnt enough to make a difference.

Though, there is a rumored 3080ti coming early next year, and since there is no nvidia card between $700 and $1500 you can be sure they will fill the price bracket. I would wait if you can afford a card a bit more expensive than the 3080.

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So only the 6900 or 3090 or wait for a refresh?

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last time i bought an amd card i had nothing but driver issues. it would constantly blue screen Thread Stuck in Device Driver. id have to start it 3 times every time i turned on my pc and pray id get it to run. i chucked that pile of shit card and bought a 2060 super it has been starting fine since. idk maybe they fixed it but fuck that i dont care to find out.

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I’ve never had that problem, I did have it with an 8800gt from nvidia and I got rid of it within a month.

I’m sure I’ve had at least one other nvidia card and didn’t have any problems though.

I've had nvidia cards on and off over the years, along with several ATI/AMD cards. I've had no issues with either, really. Currently using an NVidia 980Ti

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now to think of it I did have the unlockable 6800, then the 7800 and 7900 something then the 8800gt crapped out constantly. Then it’s been amd cards since. I’ve never had problems with cards or drivers except for that 8800gt. IIRC the first batch had overheating issues due to thermal paste/cooler not fully attaching or something.

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It's funny, because my last nvidia card was an 8800 something or other. I haven't used an nvidia card since then, because fuck them, I still remember what they did to 3dfx. I've never had all the issues with amd drivers that other people have. Guess I've been lucky.

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before that card all my other amd cards were good it was that one that refused to it was an r9390x. i updated the drivers every time one came out it would work a while then back to the error screens. i guess this whole thing is like trying to convince someone why they should be drinking coke or pepsi.

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Nah. I'm not one for discounting someone's anecdotal experience. I had an r9 280x before what I have now, and it worked fine for a couple of years, and then started acting strange. I thought it may have been drivers at that point, and about a week later the power circuitry just gave up on it, and it wouldn't display anything anymore. (I tried running it in multiple computers.) When I put the replacement grahpics card in, the power supply went, so I'd imagine the problem was related.

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RX 6800 XT is a good choice but for future-proofing go with RTX 3080 because of ray tracing. However, if you pair AMD offering with ATI/AMD Ryzen CPU there will be a significant performance boost.

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Yeah I was going with a full and ryxen system for this reason.

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Thing about "future proofing" is that thats the same thing said about the 20 series cards and those will be/already are 100% not fast enough for future RTX enabled games. By the time that future comes around, current ray-tracing hardware will just be worthless anyways because it wont keep up with the increasing demand from games.

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Perhaps you're right but for the foreseeable future, Ray tracing really does make a difference and will for atleast the next cycle/few years. A custom-built PC you can get 10yrs out of it if done right, with upgrading storage media and GFX incrementally. GFX cards generally only last 2-5years anyway before they are obsolete.

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No they're not, just no longer capable of playing the newest games on ultra settings.

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I have the 3080S 2080S and it has been great for 2k gaming and VR.

I prefer Nvidia products, their drivers are still superior. Also RTX is nice.

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You must feel really strongly about video cards...heh.

lol I downvoted you because there's no such thing as 3080S.

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Oh damn, see you should have said something. I have the 2080s, didn't realize the typo.

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I'm waiting for game studios to start releasing games that aren't packed full of woke bullshit, or are shitty ports of console games to cash in on another platform, before upgrading. Guess I'll be rocking the rx580 for a while longer.

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The good news is by the time that comes out you'll be able to enjoy it on a holodeck.

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That’s a great point, I’m just getting bored with a 6yo machine.

I was reading 2022 is going to be a big year, with ddr5, 5nm the amd 5 platform coming out etc.

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I can relate. I recently upgraded to a Ryzen, because my old motherboard gave up the ghost. It's a marked improvement over the stuff it replaced, which was around 7 years old, the exception being the video card which is a couple of years old. I just find that when I have time, I'm playing older games because the new stuff doesn't appeal.

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I just find that when I have time, I'm playing older games because the new stuff doesn't appeal.

Same, I asked about WWII non-sjw infected games here and most were ones I already play and are older. I bought COD but uninstalled it, too much sjw shit in it. So I can play basically everything on high or ultra still.

I really don’t need a new PC but you now you get the itch for one even though I know I don’t need it since I just put in a new ssd which is amazing and supposedly the end of 2021 or the beginning of 2022 it will be completely outdated with the new AM5 platform with dd5 and 5nm CPU’s and new graphics cards that will hook into your non-used cpu cores and ram and work in unison for a significant boost.

DDR5 will start at 3200 MHz and scale all the way up to 8400 MHz as time goes on.

Hynix plans for all of its DDR5 memory to run at least at 4800 MHz, and speeds below 4800 MHz will simply serve to conserve power. This means DDR5 memory will have 50% greater bandwidth than DDR4 at launch and only get faster.

I have dual channel 1600, quad channel 8400 will be nuts. it will be theoretically a little more then10 times faster.