one of the worst things I think the west does is say that suicidal thoughts mean that you need counseling because those thoughts are a sign of lack of sanity and your brain isn't working properly. So they tell the depressed person, not only do you know you're sad, but you might also be insane, and as such be incapable of taking control of your own life and making changes to fix it. That is not what sad people need to hear. They need to have their problems acknowledged and simply made aware of potential other options they should take before taking what should be the last undoable option. That shows them respect, and the time someone else takes to do this shows that that other person thinks their life isn't worth throwing away and that the other person believes in their ability to improve their life. But F-ing liberals don't want that. They love victimhood, dependence, and helplessness to authority figures and the idea that everyone is broken makes them feel better about whatever mistakes they may be making in their life. Misery loves company.