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If it can be proven that any of these vaccine makers had 'willful misconduct' that resulted in severe harm or death, they can still be sued.

That's effectively impossible. Courts can not read minds to show how "willful" an action was. Not that it matters as they can't be sued in the first place.

The companies objected to speeding up their process

Lol sure. Which company? When? Did they all shout in unison "oh no please don't make us make more money faster!"? By your own admission those protections were in place since 2005. They had no reason to worry about lawsuits.

Any one of the adverse effect people could sue them for loss of wages, mental anguish, etc. All the bullshit that Americans like to sue over.

Yeah, those damn litigious Americans, suing over stupid stuff like their lives and ability to support themselves being ruined by something they were coerced into taking. It's so selfish of them to ask for money instead of starving quietly like the other discarded lab rats.

I think the problem is the tort laws in the US. Payouts should be capped

Oh God won't someone think of the corporations!? What if some poor ten billion dollar company has to pay over a million dollars? With a slap on the wrist like that their CEO might have to buy a slightly smaller yacht! Or worse... A yacht without a helipad!! I'm literally crying you guys. It's so cruel.

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That's effectively impossible. Courts can not read minds to show how "willful" an action was. Not that it matters as they can't be sued in the first place.

Then you clearly have no idea how tort law works in the US. Litigation can and has worked quite well, many times, when it come to willful negligence lawsuits.

The four elements usually required for "gross negligence" or "willful negligence" are:

  1. Duty of care
  2. Breach of duty of care
  3. Causation
  4. Damages

A litigious lawyer will assemble a very obvious case for all 4 bullet points. In the case of a vaccine manufacturer, this is nigh impossible unless they had people dying in their Phase II and III human trials and tried to hide it.

Lol sure. Which company?

Every single one of them had to apply for immunity or they would not do business with those countries. Every. One.

For example, here is why Pfizer is not giving their vaccine to India:

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-india-pfizer/pfizer-drops-india-vaccine-application-after-regulator-seeks-local-trial-idUSKBN2A50GE

Hint: India wanted a local human trial study before they'd approve their immunity.

Yeah, those damn litigious Americans, suing over stupid stuff like their lives and ability to support themselves being ruined by something they were coerced into taking.

Oh, you're definitely retarded. Grade A retarded. Only a retard resorts to a idiotic strawman like this. Get back to me when you're intelligent enough to actually address my point about capping liability in the US because of how sue-happy the US is.

Yes, fuck the lawyers who sue for millions when some slipped and fell because they "couldn't see" a wet floor sign.

Oh God won't someone think of the corporations!?

That's literally not how tort reform works at all.

You're a reddit-leftist-retard, aren't you? The only people making arguments like yours against tort reform are Marxists who hate capitalism in any form.

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In the case of a vaccine manufacturer, this is nigh impossible

Pretty much what I said.

India wanted a local human trial study before they'd approve their immunity.

Of course, pfizer knew their RNA mad science concoction would fail.

Muh strawman

You literally said "loss of wages" is "bullshit that Americans like to sue over". Are you backpedaling? Do you think someone crippled by a rushed vaccine should be able to sue for damages to support themselves or not?

actually address my point about capping liability in the US

It would help if I knew what your point is. What should the cap be? And no, you don't get to use capitalism as a shield when you have mandatory products and get government handouts. That isn't capitalism