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Not so fast. If it can be proven that any of these vaccine makers had 'willful misconduct' that resulted in severe harm or death, they can still be sued.
Look, even a known lefty-news source says so:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covid-vaccine-side-effects-compensation-lawsuit.html
The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.
Trump requested these companies go to town making the vaccines as soon as possible and even provided finances to speed up the development process. The world can thank us for producing the vaccines - as usual, the US leads the way in research and development. The companies objected to speeding up their process stating that they could get sued into oblivion. They wanted protections against frivolous lawsuits if they were going to be required to mass produce billions of vaccines - an unprecedented vaccine production feat that has never been done.
Someone else posted a study on the adverse effects - Moderna has the worst but is also the most effective against Delta by far (odd combo...unsure of the specific reasons for this). Moderna is a new company. Any one of the adverse effect people could sue them for loss of wages, mental anguish, etc. All the bullshit that Americans like to sue over.
I think the problem is the tort laws in the US. Payouts should be capped. No lawyer agrees with me. But they should be capped. That would stop the sue-happy piece of shit lawyers.
It would likely be VERY difficult to sue these companies even if the protections were not in place - it would be quite difficult to prove they willfully were negligent with these vaccines. You know when you're watching TV or seeing an ad for drugs and it talks all about the side effects? That's because they are legally obligated to state all those to prevent from getting sued.
the jewdicial system will hold jews responsible for judaism
No.
I legit lol'd at your summary quote.
I covered that angle, already: even without the protections, you likely wouldn't win a case anyway because the burden of proof is far too high for "willful misconduct."
Don't try to argue with anticlit. He's a retard.
He thinks there were no WTC planes. But if you call him out he acts like a faggot, calls you a kike, and blocks you.
Proof below.
https://poal.co/s/Videos/434323
Good luck arguing with him. He's probably already blocked you.
No. Wrong. Each major nation produced their own jabb in the same time period.
And given the task.
That means common source and funding of the new jabbs long before covid was released
No. Wrong. Each major nation produced their own jabb in the same time period.
Wrong. Here are the list of vaccines and all 3 of the first ones were developed in the US, first (Moderna and J&J was approved for use in the US in Jan but the EUL took longer to list it):
The Pfizer/BioNtech Comirnaty vaccine was listed for WHO Emergency Use Listing (EUL) on 31 December 2020. The SII/Covishield and AstraZeneca/AZD1222 vaccines (developed by AstraZeneca/Oxford and manufactured by the State Institute of India and SK Bio respectively) were given EUL on 16 February. The Janssen/Ad26.COV 2.S developed by Johnson & Johnson, was listed for EUL on 12 March 2021. The Moderna COVID-19 vaccine (mRNA 1273) was listed for EUL on 30 April 2021 and the Sinopharm COVID-19 vaccine was listed for EUL on 7 May 2021. The Sinopharm vaccine is produced by Beijing Bio-Institute of Biological Products Co Ltd, subsidiary of China National Biotec Group (CNBG). The Sinovac-CoronaVac was listed for EUL on 1 June 2021.
That's 6 vaccines.
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/coronavirus-disease-(covid-19)-vaccines
That means common source and funding of the new jabbs long before covid was released
Also wrong.
The US Government has been funding vaccine research for decades and the US Government strongly pushed and funded the COVID-19 research.
Of the 4 approved vaccines:
Pre-Clinical Investment And Scientific Risk Recent estimates indicate that the government spent more than $900 million dollars supporting non-clinical studies and research to accelerate movement of candidate vaccines into clinical trials at companies such as Johnson and Johnson, Sanofi, Merck, and Moderna.
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20210512.191448/full/
In fact, they US funded and pushed research for SIX vaccines:
Moderna Novavax Pfizer J&J AstraZeneca Sanofi
https://www.medicalcountermeasures.gov/app/barda/coronavirus/COVID19.aspx?filter=vaccine
Johnson and Johnson, Moderna, Sanofi, and AstraZeneca together are estimated to have received more than $2.7 billion from the federal government to cover expenses related to human trials. The bulk of money was directed at Phase III trials, which compare new treatments against standard care and where most human test costs are incurred.
Does that change your mind? Do you see how much of a central role the US played in getting these vaccines developed?
Are you aware that countries that are behind the vaccination curve are using the US developed and produced vaccines. For example, Moderna and J&J in Thailand.
Do you think these folks are going to try and sue the US Companies for selling them the vaccines?
Russia has its own jabb and before usas two.
So does China.
Then there is Oxfords vaccine
Usa developed two.
All 5 all damn near instantaneously
If it can be proven that any of these vaccine makers had 'willful misconduct' that resulted in severe harm or death, they can still be sued.
That's effectively impossible. Courts can not read minds to show how "willful" an action was. Not that it matters as they can't be sued in the first place.
The companies objected to speeding up their process
Lol sure. Which company? When? Did they all shout in unison "oh no please don't make us make more money faster!"? By your own admission those protections were in place since 2005. They had no reason to worry about lawsuits.
Any one of the adverse effect people could sue them for loss of wages, mental anguish, etc. All the bullshit that Americans like to sue over.
Yeah, those damn litigious Americans, suing over stupid stuff like their lives and ability to support themselves being ruined by something they were coerced into taking. It's so selfish of them to ask for money instead of starving quietly like the other discarded lab rats.
I think the problem is the tort laws in the US. Payouts should be capped
Oh God won't someone think of the corporations!? What if some poor ten billion dollar company has to pay over a million dollars? With a slap on the wrist like that their CEO might have to buy a slightly smaller yacht! Or worse... A yacht without a helipad!! I'm literally crying you guys. It's so cruel.
That's effectively impossible. Courts can not read minds to show how "willful" an action was. Not that it matters as they can't be sued in the first place.
Then you clearly have no idea how tort law works in the US. Litigation can and has worked quite well, many times, when it come to willful negligence lawsuits.
The four elements usually required for "gross negligence" or "willful negligence" are:
- Duty of care
- Breach of duty of care
- Causation
- Damages
A litigious lawyer will assemble a very obvious case for all 4 bullet points. In the case of a vaccine manufacturer, this is nigh impossible unless they had people dying in their Phase II and III human trials and tried to hide it.
Lol sure. Which company?
Every single one of them had to apply for immunity or they would not do business with those countries. Every. One.
For example, here is why Pfizer is not giving their vaccine to India:
Hint: India wanted a local human trial study before they'd approve their immunity.
Yeah, those damn litigious Americans, suing over stupid stuff like their lives and ability to support themselves being ruined by something they were coerced into taking.
Oh, you're definitely retarded. Grade A retarded. Only a retard resorts to a idiotic strawman like this. Get back to me when you're intelligent enough to actually address my point about capping liability in the US because of how sue-happy the US is.
Yes, fuck the lawyers who sue for millions when some slipped and fell because they "couldn't see" a wet floor sign.
Oh God won't someone think of the corporations!?
That's literally not how tort reform works at all.
You're a reddit-leftist-retard, aren't you? The only people making arguments like yours against tort reform are Marxists who hate capitalism in any form.
In the case of a vaccine manufacturer, this is nigh impossible
Pretty much what I said.
India wanted a local human trial study before they'd approve their immunity.
Of course, pfizer knew their RNA mad science concoction would fail.
Muh strawman
You literally said "loss of wages" is "bullshit that Americans like to sue over". Are you backpedaling? Do you think someone crippled by a rushed vaccine should be able to sue for damages to support themselves or not?
actually address my point about capping liability in the US
It would help if I knew what your point is. What should the cap be? And no, you don't get to use capitalism as a shield when you have mandatory products and get government handouts. That isn't capitalism
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