that there is no danger or the virus doesn’t exist
Incorrect, and I wish you'd stop putting words in my mouth. I'm saying that the bullshit they've done to date has been over the top compared to what we're dealing with. I could understand restrictions when it first was a thing, given that they didn't know the symptoms, the treatment, or the mortality rate - but when they've realised that more than 99% of people survive it, they should have stopped. Ditto with the vaccines - give them to the vulnerable if they wish, and if anyone else wants it - but otherwise let people choose for themselves rather than coercing everyone into what is essentially a last stage clinical trial.
It is not anywhere near a bad season of flu. Its about 20 to 50 times more deadly. My neighbors son in law died of it and he was in his 40s.
Was he riddled with health issues or fat?
Have some fucking dignity and act like you give a shit
Do you know who I give a shit about as well? Those who are suffering mentally or have lost everything due to constant lockdowns and horseshit. The children who are being fucked as a result of this horseshit as well. So you can kindly fuck off with your concernfagging nonsense.
Incorrect, and I wish you'd stop putting words in my mouth. I
I didn’t put words in your mouth. Im just summarizing the typical arguments I regularly hear around these parts for why we shouldn’t be outraged about this disease and the huge numbers of people its killed.
Those who are suffering mentally or have lost everything due to constant lockdowns and horseshit.
Once again you think theres a binary choice between submitting to irrational useless lockdowns and claiming that there is in fact a massive epidemic that killed > half a million americans prematurely. Do you believe accepting the truth about murdered americans means you have to accept leftist policies?
Every thing you say confirms my initial assesment, your only argument against tyrannical leftist lockdown is to deny covid exists. That is because you are uninformed. You feel trapped like its your only defense. Stop it.
Ivermectin is the cure. Masks work minimally in certain settings. Ivermectin works better. It works better than the vaccine because it is safer.
You don’t have to counter democrap lies by lying in the opposite direction.
You said it was in line with the flu death toll and a so-called virus that was more car accident than catastrophic illness. I brought the facts that covid is one or two orders of magnitude higher in terms of fatality and that its extremely dangerous for old people and you accused me of muddying the waters for that. That is not honest debate.
. I could understand restrictions when it first was a thing, given that they didn't know the symptoms, the treatment, or the mortality rate - but when they've realised that more than 99% of people survive it, they should have stopped. Ditto with the vaccines - give them to the vulnerable if they wish, and if anyone else wants it - but otherwise let people choose for themselves rather than coercing everyone into what is essentially a last stage clinical trial.
I agree with most of that. I dont agree with the restriction regime. Or the vaccine. They are not pushing those to save people. They are exploiting the crisis to make money and grab power.
I wonder if the fact that thats true means people aren’t really dying? Ya think?
Nope. Its a very bad disease. It was created by the government. Its really killing people, alot of people. They are on the old side and it doesn’t matter, their lives still matter.
Again you are trying to minimized their murder because you don’t understand this disease and you think that the only way to “win” is to claim that its not a bid deal.
There is a cure. A CURE.
Distribution ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine can preven almost all covid deaths. Prophylactic ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine weekly dosing can prevent infection in old people cheaply and with BETTER safety than the vaccine.
Once again you think theres a binary choice between submitting to irrational useless lockdowns and claiming that there is in fact a massive epidemic that killed > half a million americans prematurely. Do you believe accepting the truth about murdered americans means you have to accept leftist policies?
Why are you continually putting words in my mouth?
Masks work minimally in certain settings
Incorrect. Masks do not work at all for viruses. They are designed to keep bacteria out of a sterile field - corona is not a bacteria.
Im not putting words in your mouth. You have reiterated this same false paradigm over and over. You clearly think its a binary choice and you go on to infer that because I believe a high number of people have indeed been killed by covid that I am in favor of lockdowns.
Do you know who I give a shit about as well? Those who are suffering mentally or have lost everything due to constant lockdowns and horseshit. The children who are being fucked as a result of this horseshit as well.
What does my assertion that covid has killed as many people as the government claims (and more!) have to do with lockdowns? Why did you put words in my mouth. My insistance that covid has killed millions of people and is much more dangerous than the flu is not implicit support of lockdowns and making children sad or whatever. What is the basis of your implication?
Its okay, I already know. You think its a binary choice. Either deny the covid is anything but the sniffles or you are supporting lockdowns and being mean to kids.
We are not talking about all viruses, we are talking about a highy contagious airborne virus that is spread through microdroplets of saliva and snot being aeresolized. Even a crappy mask will filter out some of the larger droplets in BOTH directions, basic physics explains why.
Will a floppy surgical mask with open sides guarantee filtration of 95% of all particles? No. But it will cut down on initial viral loads in certain situations, which could lead to better outcomes. Let me preemptively refute the words youre about to put in my mouth. Admitting that masks may be useful in some situations is really not support for mandatory masks— its just an acknowlegement of reality
They are designed to keep bacteria out of a sterile field
Physics doesn’t care what masks are designed for. They can block some droplets of saliva on the order of a couple microns. That is how the virus is aerosolized.
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